The F104 does not belong at 9.3

And you obviously don’t know how flying straight is too easy in ARB.

It is literally something a player with no playing Jet RB experience can do with actual brain cells, and while it is less toxic than the BR9.7 F-104A when we had BR hard caps, it is close enough to it that the current F-104A/F-104C is easy to fly.

I spaded my F-104A(ROCAF) in few days ago but, I don’t want to play this thing in ARB anymore because it takes no skill for killing enemy aircrafts and it is just unfair for facing against 9.3-8.3BR subsonic jets. In fact, I am not good at flying supersonic jets in ARB, but I still get 2KPF and 6KD in my stats for the F-104A (ROCAF) that is really decent at any BR.

The only problem with flying the F-104A/F-104C is the awful teammates who skipped the grind and chose the road to the F-14B or MiG-29 instead of learning to play Jet RB.

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Oh cmon…
I really miss when it was CL-13s and MiGs against F-86s and Hunters :(

imagine flying straight in a plane.

then don’t play it? you are literally whining about a single jet, when there are 9.3 jets with R60s, hell the fact you actually made a post complaining about 1 plane is comical and not the true problem. You also aren’t talking about how useless the f104 is when it gets uptiered to fight mig-21s

What you should be complaining about his why gaijin increased the BRs on many of those 8.3 planes, because thats what they did. Every sabre sub sonic mig / yak could sit at 8.0 and they would be fine, instead gaijin has them at 8.3 and 8.7, because its clear that gaijin does not want people only flying sub sonics anymore, for whatever reason they don’t want people to have fun.

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Sure, and fight Me262s, Spitfire Mk24s, Hortons, and other 7.0 stuff that doesn’t stand a chance in hell to do anything about them.

At this point you’re just being silly.

The F104A/C doesn’t belong at 9.3, its a straight up 9.7 and would be easily 10.0 if it didn’t carry 9Bs simply due to its flight performance.

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You literally missed my post. :skull:

I have no idea how to reference my post in new forum :(

BTW, We could face Me 262As when you flyed Sabres back then lol

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Just an 8 man klan stack CL13s, nothing to see there

You can see A-1a is on their teammates(0:41-)

Yea I know, poor guy, at least he was on their team. Before there was this, there was also F9Fs facing props. So much balans going on. At least the game was better, and so were the players. That all changed once they started to add tanks and focus on ground ordinance as well. Too bad. Kind of wished they’d not make that all available in the same game but would of done the same that wargames did and create separate games for each vehicle type.

you are out of your mind if you think the f104 A/C belongs at 10.0 .

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Also, Sabre and MiG were never, ever 8.0BR, and for a long time they were 9.0BR.

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they used to be at a higher BR… you know what happened to them… they got clubbed and literally were being shot down by radar missiles and they still get killed by radar missiles because they have no counter measures, and if you think they are going to head on a Phantom or a Mig 21BIS i don’t know what to tell you.

i never said they were, i said they could be at 8.0 and be fine.

Then you can say the same thing that we should move that Nesher to 9.3. Please, Gaijin, DO IT.

Seriously dude, if you can’t make the F104A/C work at 9.3, then stick to lower tiers. It’s horrendously undertiered where it is right now

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Aaaaaand you think old top dogs should have same BR with Me 262 C-2b or Meteor Mk.8 that is really fine at its BR?

Oh man, it is not even funny if that was jokes.

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Nesher/Mirage 5 is fine at 10.0.
And this is about F-104, which I said my peace.
9.3 for now until decompression happens.
Just turn and they can’t hit you.

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its that or you down tier those as well.

How about neither?
Until decompression happens, the easiest way to avoid F-104s is turning.

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Yes. Me 262 C-2b vs Spitfire Mk.22 or Meteor Mk.8 vs J21RA is “fair”

Difference is in ordnance,… aircrafts at 10.0 have access to numerous missiles and of way better quality.

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