The F-5C is no longer good

i stopped arguing with this guy long time ago, because he’s unable to understand what makes the F-5C a good aircraft.

he thinks with metrics that are irrelevants, and above all else, he doesn’t recongnized when he’s wrong about something.

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I like the F3 but it is not good compared to its competitors

I don’t think he plays it anymore, not at least since it got a more correct Br

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Well, at least it isn’t worst 12.0BR jet

As my analogy says.

Nah… sadly, he provided a screenshot of his match scoreboard with decent scores a few days ago(in duplicate topic), and it was tagged as version 2.47.0.142 in the top right.
(Just before this update.)

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Not at all, i genuinely really like it and do decent with it. I just cant bring myself to say it’s great!

Yeah i was just chiming in as i play britain a lot and seen the remark that any brit player would disagree 😂 just to reinforce your point

I regularly play it when im wanting to make some money, it’s genuinely a great platform, however i can grab some screenshots from the last patch. Doesn’t mean im regularly playing.

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mantis cope post
nobody is yet able to actually counter his points
mfw i just make a shitty cringy comment to feed my insatiable desire to be above anyone else’s opinions or empirical statements
my name is Zyranovos

But it does impact the thrust ratio, which impacts your acceleration.

True, and yet the f-5c’s feather weight is still not lightweight enough, for it’s thrust weight ratio is utter ass.

Do you have any reference that they can fly faster than M 0.86 in horizontal flight? No diving, of course.

Mach 0.86 is equal to 915 kmh at FL360, and the 747 flies at 1010kmh with no stream. That is, mach 0.95. If there’s tailwind and the upper camber shockwave remains in the center of the wing the 747 can experience a mach cone.

Nah, Tornado F.3 is one of the best 12.0BR jets along with F-4S.

never had an issue against either of the two.

Seriously, mate?
If I ping any one of the ‘Active British main players in the forum’. I think they will disagree with me.
She can’t bomb or dogfight, but she is a fine young interceptor.

Intercept deez nuts on people multipathing and notching lmfao. TRG DOES NOT HAVE MICAS.

Is that why you don’t give a damn about F-5C’s any good part…?

To dogfight on the f-5c you need to get enemies to not only approach to you but also stick to the dogfight, which barely happens.

Because everyone runs away from your F-5C…?

Literally the same issue as with the zero, but why would I complain? They play smart, the ones that die to the f-5c still die to zeroes. Don’t you realize you’re proving me right?

Strange, It seems your KD is good enough to prove that F-5C isn’t irrelevant.

My KD is best on the worst planes in the game such as sea fury, n1k2s, j5n1, etc. Nobody says that the j5n1 or the n1k2 is goated, none either the sea fury unless they’re rage baiting me.

Why do you still play it? Just to suffer…?

Because it’s the only premium jet I have and bought it for 20 bucks, and because I have better hobby priorities than spending tons of time grinding.

The F-5C is junk and gets murked by anything that flies, even the unlucky case you lose a head on you get completely blown up.

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Literally JUST ONE BULLET of THE COMMUNITY’S CHOICE of the worst jet gun in game.

Haven’t you ever considered in the slightest, that having good stats on f-5c and other rather unpopularly played planes might mean that i’m actually a good player as opposite of what you’re constantly trying to convey?

first, learn to speak english properly (if you recall when you bashed me for speaking to you in french but you said I was very bad at it), second of all, metrics again don’t care if other planes have the LEVERAGE to choose not to engage it. You’re the one constantly arguing with people trying to be right, you literally defend MICA on it’s current state and still are unable to spot the weaknesses of your enemies. I keep repeating once and again. I HAVE NO ISSUES FACING F-5C’S even if THEY’RE 5KD PLUS PLAYERS.

I have no issues against f-5c players because i can run away from it, i can reverse it, i can force slow speed fights, i can scissor it at high speed, i can force it to crash due to compression, i can energy trap it, and THE SLIGHTEST CHANCE I HAVE to PUT A BULLET ON IT, it dies.

f5c has not “insane MER”, it has very good ER horizontally if you stick to half elevator at mach 0.9, alas, risking to get one circled by phantoms.

Because everyone knows you’re a rage-baiting troll, you’ve had multiple account bans, and going back looking at comments from months ago. You also are extremely unreasonable and that’s fine you’re entitled to your opinion, even if it’s wrong.

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Zero logic found.

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Prove it, duel somebody here. We pick the person.

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rear aspect only, even mig21 at 9.7 get sarh

we aren’t pretending the r3s is better than every rear aspect IR are we?

SARH isn’t better than IR either. It’s just another type of missile.

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I stopped responding to the guy , he just spouts total nonsense then demands it to be accepted as fact.

“One circled” by a phantom while pulling a 0.95 mach circle isn’t realistically happening bar unless he is being 3rd partied with his attention tunneled.

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He won’t

I do it because it’s funny to pop the balloon of somebody like him

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Can’t argue with that, I just don’t have time to squabble with a guy claiming one of the best planes for its BR in game is bad, he will debate the fact of s vehicle with his opinion.

I don’t give people like that the ability to do that. Facts are facts and they are listed as such. Things that are objectively factual won’t get any time to be debated, they are set in stone. If they ever try to argue otherwise they get stonewalled with “No.” “Incorrect” etc

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Hear no issues from me, he’ll still argue it though.

I also dont want to spend time here arguing over nothing, id rather just discuss and chill not like i used to be sitting here arguing over tiny discrepancies in vehicles.

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Because you ignored every comment that actually countered your points?
And yet unable to accept your loss?

  1. You are underselling Nothrop and USAF’s Fighter Mafia. If F-5A/C’s thrust weight ratio was really ass, Nothrop never finished development of F-5, and Congress would’ve never bought F-5E.

  2. Can you provide any ‘clean data’ that the other 10.7BR jets have ‘way better thrust ratio’?

  3. Thrust-weight-ratio need to be supported by aerodynamics itself.
    Look at Sea Harrier FRS.1, one of the Royal Navy’s finest fighter jets, which historically completely crushed the F-5E but was ashamed by Gaijin, and insulted by you with a misclassifying claim as ‘attacker’
    She has extremely good TWR but can’t fly supersonically.

  1. As I claimed earlier, off topic. Cut this bullshit

  2. Strange, I think you claimed that B747 can fly in M1.01. Now you changed it to 0.95?

  3. Tailwind can’t affect B747 in FL360, and if it affects B747, you will never gonna see mach cone. Because plane will be dismantled before you see it.

You completely missed my analogy TWICE.

Then, maybe the reason why Tornado F.3 sucks and easily that they excluded their Foxhunter Radar and Skyflash SuperTEMP.

Just like how you excluded the good points of F-5C.

Your own stats counter this; even if you are a skilled pilot, if F-5C’s perfect chance happens barely, you can’t maintain your KD.

Feels like nothing more than
-You are taking my claim wrong and brought a false analogy.

Feels like the gambler’s fallacy… comparing J5N1 or Sea Fury with F-5C feels dumb to me.

If you really hate F-5C, maybe you can buy a new one on 35~40$ in the next discount period.
It isn’t that expensive. Isn’t it?
one spent and forever escape from pain from F-5C.

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