Agreed with everything you’ve said, and I’d like to add something. A Facebook user ran the following calculation during the last Winter Event, with the odds of receiving a vehicle from the SL crates. Image below.
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The only thing you’re likely to get is SL from the crates, and most the rewards for SL are less than what you pay for it, even worse that Gaijin pretends random decals are a valuable reward.
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Can someone clarify wich “shark jaws” decals is in this crate? There are 5 decals named “shark jaws”, does the crate contains all of them?
Yeah, saw that. That method of portrayal never made any sense to me.
Take B15: So if you have a 1/1000 chance of getting something (B10) and you roll 100 times (A15)… you have a 97% chance of getting something? Um, no.
Also the difference between direct vehicle gifts and coupons factors in here. Coupons are significantly rarer than vehicle drops.
Odds from records I’ve kept myself of the last 5 events, with a cumulative 1500 < n < 2000 (~100 million total SL), are suggestive of 1/300 for any vehicle and 1/1000 for a vehicle coupon. I’d say that estimate is off at most by a factor of two in either direction.
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Oh i’m sorry your majesty, should i ask permission from you before commenting anything?
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I think this video sums up the issue quite nicely.
RNG and gambling are becoming more pervasive in the game with every update. I’m surprised there’s been little to no pushback from players. Personally, I consider it to be the #1 most negative thing in WT at the moment.
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Absolutely.
I got my hopes up when I saw the Lorraine 155 on the splash art, but you guys had to ruin it all over again by not making it a coupon.
Seriously, STOP making these things activate on account only. People want the low level rewards too, make them coupons. This used to be the standard before you decided to make your game worse for no reason.
It’s not a gamble because there’s no gambling involved. You know what you are getting and how much you need to buy it. The only thing in the warbond shop I would call a gamble is the task star system being randomized, though I feel that system shouldn’t exist to begin with.
The SL boxes are gambling because the reward is random, which is made worse by the fact you can’t get them in other places. I would much rather have those old vehicles sold like normal premiums instead of this garbage.
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The direct activation system has been one of the worst things ever put into this game.
I feel this is not going to change until gambling is just illegalized in video games, period. Companies cannot help themselves.
And even then there is no guarantee that they are equally random either (or at all). Its programmatically easy to have some things weighted more heavily, or for it to be completely driven by an algo that calculates what it thinks will keep you reaching for that virtual one armed bandit lever.
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The guy I was replying to stated it was gambling. Read his comment before taking mine out of context.
Even if it were as bad of a gamble as he insinuates, being a warbond crate crates makes it infinitely harder to get than an SL crate There’s a limited amount in a long stretch of time, as well as being task-oriented and depending on your battlepass stage.
“It’s not a gamble because there’s no gambling involved”
“The SL boxes are gambling”
Make up your mind?
It is, hence why there are region restrictions to the shop for this game.
Even then, it would be entirely impossible to make all gambling illegal. This entire event is on a f2p basis, and there is no money input to receive a reward.
This column is a little interesting, because I don’t think any of the vehicles have a 1% drop rate, though I could be wrong on that. There’s a lot of nuance to this table that I don’t think is adequately explained, and it’s laid out in a confusing manner.
edit: Unless it’s 0.1%, the image is small and I can’t tell if there’s a decimal in front of it.
So I know it’s not our responsibility to solve all of Gaijin’s problems, but I’m honestly curious how people opposed to SL boxes (again, I personally feel GE boxes are exploitative FOMO garbage, this is just about SL boxes now) would solve this problem.
Before the recent economics update, some players were struggling for SL but others were not. I have generally made more SL than I can possibly spend on just tech tree vehicles, mods and crewing. If not for SL loot crates I’d be well over 100 million SL on account today.
So… What would you substitute that I could spend it on? I have to have some reason, even a superficial one, to collect pointless amounts of SL. What’s the alternate money sink that would give those players to spend their surplus SL on that would be better?
No gotchas here, I’m honestly curious. I don’t like the RNG aspects either. But that kind of late-to-end game player, what could Gaijin sell (for surplus SL) instead?
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Same, time to get to more debt
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I think you put it best in your earlier comment, the best solutions have implementation issues. In theory what I would say is, rare or removed vehicles at outrageous SL prices.
I have no problem with the SL lootboxes in principle, but it’s the context that makes it problematic. Vehicles that were made scarce or removed and are only available here, so the RNG is the literal only way you could get them; the fact that their frequency has gone up now with the new event cycle; the fact that we had our first GE lootbox in December and it surely won’t be the last.
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Maybe you misunderstood what I said. I meant to chose whatever item we wanted in the WB shop and buy it. No gambling envolved, no random stuff. Just like what happens now with the vehicles.
It’s true that there’s a limit to the maximum amount of WB you can have at the same time, regardless of if you bought the pass or not. But after you spend WB you can always get more by completing tasks. Premium pass only gives you more WB after level 76.
I disagree - warbonds are useful for other things.
My almost-100 million SL is not useful for anything else, so I am “gambling” with an essentially useless resource.
If you are short on SL then turn automatic repair off and play more than 1 mode with more than 1 nation and your problem will be solved.
Indeed - the chances of NOT getting that item even once in 100 rolls is 0.000^100 = .9047 - so with 100 rolls you haver about a 9.5% chance of getting it at least once.
I did get a vehicle once in the last season - Type K-8 No 13 Japanese gunboat. But I already have it, and whatever it substituted for it flashed past so fast I didn’t notice!! That’s the only vehicle I’ve ever received in all the seasons, buying 200+ crates every time.
But I find the small RP boosters and the backups to be useful, and for me that’s worth the SL.