So according to you the Brimstone which has about 20km range has more range than the Kh38 which has twice that ?
I don’t see how it’s useful on the subject of the difference of missiles range but why not? It’s true you’re right, bravo, your harrier Gr7 has more range than a Pantsir, congratulations, but in terms of pure range the Su25Sm3 still has the advantage with the Kh38
Range in a vacuum isn’t a relevant stat, as much as you or I would like it to be, otherwise glide bombs win.
No you didn’t. You only focused on the words, not the substance of the message. The main take away from this is lack of challenge using this Brimstone. You would’ve known this if you read my entire reply instead of nitpicking what I’m saying.
Want me to educate you on why the Mavericks are not an effective stand off weaponry? You always seem to dodge that question. But I won’t be surprised if you’ll do it on this thread
Fun fact, if you fire an AGM-65 at its maximum release speed (mach 1.4) it will only go 23km maximum while if you fire your Kh38 at 500km it will go nearly 30km. So yes I agree the range in a vacuum shows nothing but the real range shows something and this something is that the Kh 38 will go further than an AGM65 in 90% of situations
@HondaCivici
So your post is focusing on the words rather than the substance of the message… while claiming I am.
I use AGM-65s in ground RB, so whatever you say will be unempathetic at best.
Especially since your post just implied KH-38s aren’t effective stand-off either, the same guidance type as AGM-65D and G.
In ground battles it’s AGM vs SPAA, not AGM vs AGM.
@Mathll
AGM-65s go 23km at an altitude of 9000 meters going as speed of mach 0.91.
Not 1.4.
The Pantsir can also shoot down all of the Brimstones that a Tornado has to manually guide onto a target. The Su-25 and AGM 65 users can lock and fire and forget.
We also have no idea how fast the Brimstone will accelerate off the rail. We may find that by the time the Tornado is lasing the Pantsir or tank it will have to follow the missile into the target bringing it closer into range of other Sams
lol Claims without evidence.
Gayjin: brimstones too op. Cant counter them
Also gayjin: Adds kh38 which pantsir can shoot down… Oh wait
Yea and now we have to deal with russian 100km cruise missiles that yet again 1 or 2 spaa can shoot down and anyone trying to say F117 will be good. I ll surely bet my 100 bucks it wont and i m not joking
I won’t insult you by asking you to reread what I wrote.
MACH 1.4 IS THE MAXIMUM DROP SPEED
We still dont kown about the guidance of the kh 36 in game, it could be just simple gps, which wouldnt really make it that strong
How do you think its going to work…Go and try and take a Pantsir on with an AGM 65 and follow it to the Pantsir target before it impacts. No breaking away from the target.
We will see… After kh38 i can press that doubt button
Also wait on trauler there were 6 (i believe) fired so idk although they could be gps guided its just another spawn point and click land simulator
The one in the trailer was either gps only or active radar, guidance which in game can only be used againt ships so far
Pantsir already rarely finds my GBUs and AGMs as-is, cause I launch/drop from 9000 meters, above its third-person lock functionality, and its search radar seems to have issues with that angle as well.
This has been from A LOT of testing as well as in-match experience.
I understand MANY people have had their ordnance intercepted, and all I can do is give my parameters for launching weapons at tanks and Pantsirs in ground RB [I usually ignore SPAA as targets since they’re not useful for winning the match].
Seem you don’t even know how Brimstone even work FnF still better than laser and Brimstone have dual mode which mean they can be guided by both radar FnF and laser
assume that Pantsir don’t even play the game slow missile like AGM65 gonna get shoot down eaiser than other with that speed and need a lot of work to make it outrange pantsir in GR7
while SU-25SM3 don’t even need to put any afford (well apart from jet that what it is)
then it skill issue on pantsir side that don’t even keep an eye on radar
Radar not picking up bombs/AGMs is not their fault.
Guess who doesnt have that problem
TWS maybe? (only two SPAA in the game have it) and 80degree of radar coverage if they can’t picking on radar it their fault Mav are slow and bomb even slower can’t pick them with TWS is real skills issue things like ITO don’t even have TWS to do that