but they dont? you need the lock from your radar before you are allowed to launch, You can’t just blindly shot them
Yeah I’m not talking about mavericks, but missiles like AASM and others similar to it.
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No, you can plop a gps point the moment you spawn with gps bombs and just bomb toss them onto the target, its even easier with glide bombs because you only have to pop up for like 6 seconds.
Same for GPS + LOAL missiles like irl???
And if you fire at the wrong gps coordinate, your missile won’t do anything
which again i said you deserve to die if you get GPS bombed. There is very easy counterplay, dont stand around for 2 mins in one spot visible.
What you’re trying to add is something that is completely removing any interaction in the game
how do you remove interaction if it already doesnt exist anymore in toptier
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I mean sorta but you realize that a 2000lbs glide bomb can just GPS bomb a spawn a likely kill all of the aaa in that spawn? They literally dont even have to see you. Its simply the way the AGM84h works irl. If it cant be added with any efficacy then why add it in the first place?
The Jaguar IS and A-10C have no business being in that comparison lmao.
i literally explained that the current way is how you have interaction, If you want to launch IR/TV missile you need surface lock atleast which requires line of sight and getting decently close if you want to guarnatee a track for someone not paying attentions.
Or you GPS bomb them which they deserve to die if they haven’t moved (but you still need outside information)
I play SRE and eat spaa for breakfast and this is not efficient way to do it because the kill radius + spawn protections are not enough unless someone is really dumb
ARH missiles don’t lock beyond their seeker limits lol. It’s guided in by IOG+DL and then turns on when it gets near.
Which… sounds like locking on, after launch :P
you are required to provide a target with radar. Gajin doesnt just let you launch them into aether. Just as surface locking IR/TV missile
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I seem to be misunderstanding the problem here.
Is this about GNSS launches lacking the ability to acquire IR/TV targets post launch, unlike regular point launches?
Or is this about a proper LOAL implementation, including “dumb” launches with delayed seeker activation and potential MITL features?
Coz it’s the latter that I am worried about, as that applies to way more powerful and spammable weapons, like the Kh-38MT, the AASM Hammer and certain heli launched FnF missiles
Okay so to explain the problem here, in real life missiles like AASM/Kh-38MT are able to be fired towards GPS coordinates and find targets by locking them autonomously after arriving at the GPS coordinates. However, Gaijin made those missiles lock-on before launch because they do not have any LOAL mechanic in the game for A2G missiles. This isn’t normally an issue since they still have a regular flight path and can kill targets in LOBL scenarios.
With these newer generation of missiles however, that skim the terrain or do terrain-following like AGM-84H, it cannot still do LOBL reliably on some maps and terrain, because it would drop down to 600m and then get blocked by terrains or buildings, and thus trashing itself.
In this case, refusing to implement proper LOAL implementation for these new terrain-following missiles is preventing it from functioning properly in the first place from a game bug point of view.
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Unless they can figure out a way to fix that without MITL, I suppose you’ll have to take that limitation into account then, similar to how you can’t use TV guided weapons in night battles, even when illumination is present
I just don’t trust Gaijin to add MITL functionality and then limit it to cruise missiles only
So basically its an issue with interaction between the IIR lock & the low altitude of the terrain following profile of the Mid-Course Cruise.
And that it doesn’t fallback to a GPS/INS guidance properly when the track is lost in the terminal phase.
Also it is possible to extract range from angular rates from a seeker head to update GPS coordinates
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To me they absolutely do. Representing strike aircraft with 2+ IRCCM missiles at or below 11.7 with one of them having HMD(yes yes ik the 10C is very much a subsonic)
The Jaguar IS is a great jet m8, magic 2’s at 11.3, shit ton of chaff and enough flares to last you the whole game.
I stand by my BR suggestions and comparisons, they’re more than reasonable.
The Jaguar IS is absolutely a great jet, but it’s also not comparable to the Tornado Gr.4 in the slightest lol.
It’s true that in game IR missiles with « GNSS » absolutely never use GPS in any situation. I don’t really see the point of adding them as « IR + GNSS + IOG » if the GNSS and IOG part is strictly deactivated.
The current implementation is also already detrimental for the AASM as, due to its loft, if launch in point mode at medium-high altitude it will fly away instead of guiding towards the ground.
That’s because the bomb always necessitate line of sight of the target its tracking (even the ground in POINT mode), but due to the high loft and limited seeker off bore sight, it looses the ground and doesn’t default to GNSS/IOG, and thus continues in a straight trajectory.
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Comparable enough as reference to highlight the point I’m driving home about the insanity for the BR differences with the current MM m8.
You clearly see that I didnt say make the GR4 11.3 bro.
again, I stand by my suggestions made.