The su 39 is an issue now, first it now have much better kit than the su25t that alone should warrant 11.7 at the very least and other people will and have reference it to make an argument since it’s kit is much better.
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They fixed AJ168s too, they seem to no longer just randomly miss the target
Do you want a subsonic aircraft with limited ground-to-ground weaponry at 12.0? 12.3?
You mean like the Harrier Gr7? or the M-346FA (if im not mistaken in it being subsonic)
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Do you want the exact same aircraft with MUCH better kit to be the same br as it’s tt equivalent? Buddy i am comparing it with the su 25t
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Kh-31 launched from Mach 1.8 and 15km of altitude can reach up to 65 km currently. If you can achieve same results on a Su-39, I will believe that launch platform doesn’t matter
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When are you really ever going to be firing from further than 20 or so km away?
Under those conditions it is substantially faster and firing from something like an Su-39 isnt going to be that impactful in achieving said range or speed
Much better than the Su-39 4 IRCCM missiles, 4 Mavericks, and you can rearm at the helipads there’s no comparison
6 Bristomes, Fox3, Laser-GPS GBus? Do you want 11.7?
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When was that ever said? Kizvy didn’t specify anything like that, words were that platform doesn’t matter, period.
It’s the Su-25T that’s in a bad state, not the Su-39
Actually? It’s underperforming then
A2A performance shoudlnt have any relevance in this discussion. Given that also at 12.0 you have aircraft like the F-16 and Gripen A. Heck even AV-8B+ is 12.0
Right and? At the same BR you have supersonic aircraft with 6x AGM-65. Heck you have supersonic 11.7s with 6x AGM-65
I dont see the relevance at all. I would never actually do this tactic because you would be killed by a Pantsir 9/10 times
An equivalent to Vikhrs currently.
Su-39 has ARM and TV guided bombs. Your point?
Honestly, why not? Fox-3 are not that good and 11.7 to have 2x Derby isnt going to be that game breaking in GRB. The focus on A2A performance of Fox-3s in a gamemode where everyone exploits MP anyway is just a bit wierd.
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Until now both the su 39 and 25t have been fine, one got much better buff than the other.
Yep, I used A model with Su-30MK, couldn’t reach 100km atm, but missile sinks when I launched past 75km
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MiG-27 but missile has only one band.
Because maybe you don’t know how to do it?
Of course not, the brimstones are far superior´
Of course it is an aircraft in a GRB is tasked with attacking the ground and denying CAS
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where in a ground you will reach an altitude of 10,000 metres, launch the missile and not be shot down in the process
I know how to VTOL land.
Vikhrs are faster, more can be carreid on a single pylon and have prox fuse. From a subsonic platform, I dont even think they have better range. Max I get on the Tonka is about 15km. On the M-346 Im guessing maybe 10-12km?
I really dont see any argument for Brimstone 1 being better than Vikhrs.
So?
