how about GR7 and FGR.4 ,their BR will be ok
There have been even faster launches, I’ve tried them too, but Gaijin wants maximum speed per hardpoint, though they’re selective because the Eurofighter has no limit on Paveway 4, in reality, that speed limit doesn’t exist because modern hardpoints eject the bombs out of the airflow
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Can you compare it to something that actually matters? DM53 for example
The example is relevant, Duplet was made to counter the tandem warhead munitions, Relikt was not, yet, it seems that Duplet in game doesn’t exist at all lmao, while Relikt works for some reason while it should be irrelevant due to NOT being able to stop tandem warheads.
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Both in fact die in this scenario so thats irrelevant to me.
Why?
Why is the tornado GR1 more powerful than the RET8
It has weaker engines.
Less CMs
No MAWS
Weaker A2G
Weaker tpod
So it just sounds you like you are making up excuses again
GR1 simply has to stay in a state worse than a decapitated sloth glued to the wall
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Its not about the aircraft, but ALARM and the quantities of them. Even a loadout of 5 is expected to be 12.0.
I’m really curious where you think the strength of ALARM lies. My friend and I tested it, and it performed terribly… nowhere near as good as HARM.
Its entire flight speed is too slow, making it extremely easy to intercept.
Worst of all, target locking is difficult (it shows up on the RWR, but the missile can’t find the target).
It’s also highly unstable, often losing lock for no apparent reason, or diving after flying over air defense systems only to fail to pull out;
oh, and by the way, this thing is almost unusable within 5 km…
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Why?
Why is ALARM so much more powerful than AGM88 or even KH31 which is found on aircraft at 11.3?
Maybe if they had their loiter mode, but as a weapon with a notable minimum range and only direct attack, they might actually be some of the harder weapons to use
And why is 5x so OP or is just because it would be able to defeat the Pantsir and that isn’t allowed?
And if 5 is OP then why not 2? The outer pylons would be an extreme restriction but wouldn’t gut the Gr1s performance to absolutely 0
Tornado GR1 is barely usable at 11.3 Vs most 11.3+ SPAA. It needs buffs. Period. Here is the perfect buff. Given the Su39 gets some of the most powerful ARM with no BR increase at all, I just dont understand the issue
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However, the trajectory and data performance of this missile are extremely poor. Firstly, its speed is too slow, making it highly susceptible to interception. Secondly, the bug of failing to hit the target due to diving after locking onto the target is particularly evident. Its dive occurs after the missile is launched from the ground and passes above the target
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Why don’t you test it yourselves? This thing is simply no match for HARM right now.
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This is a different ARM and different platform.
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Right?
And?
Tornado GR1 with any ARM = 12.0
Tornado RET 8 with 4x AGM-88 = 11.7
Su-39 with the best ARM = 11.3
How is that fair? You seriously cannot argue balance when clearly there isn’t any
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Su-39 is much slower and it only gets 2 of said “best” ARMs.
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And they are different? Different platforms, different ARMs. A Su-39 is not a Tornado.
Different platforms and different ARMs have differing BRs.
Hey, its intended yes.
Launch conditions don’t matter for the KH31 because of being ramjet.
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