It’s already in the files, can’t understand why it’s not added still.
For security reasons you can’t see those files/images that are attached.
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French suffering as always
The Dutch F-16AM got its skin
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Bruh.
I’ll quote my answer from a different thread:
Oh ok 👍
When will the disable button appear?
Afeared of reminding the English of historical trauma, I assume.
Only reason I can think of at this point.
Not really. Otherwise you’d have to remove the Sea Harrier due to it’s erm… impact upon the long-term career prospects of pilots unfortunate enough to try tackling the Fleet Air Arm.
Exocet wasn’t the biggest killer in the Falklands from the point of view of us Brits - that would be the A-4 Skyhawk with dumb bombs. Requiring the use of almost suicidal low-level anti-shipping runs.
It was a war fought many decades ago and thus firmly in the ‘water under the bridge’ category.
It was a joke. I am well aware of the history of the Falklands and the conflict therein.
Can never forgive the RAF for killing the harrier from that conflict.
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The Sea Harriers were not RAF - they were Royal Navy / Fleet Air Arm. They soon upgraded theirs to Sea Harrier FA2s which were running until the 2000s (20 odd years later).
The RAF Harrier lived on until 2010 - by which time a lot of the airframes were quite tired out. With F-35B which was ‘supposed’ to be in service just a few years later (spoiler alert - it took a bit longer) it seemed like a reasonable idea to retire the GR7s/9s.
Progress sucks sometimes, but it is progress.
The harrier was highly effective in the conflict, far more so than the Vulcan. Post conflict the Vulcan was reported as the greater asset, thus guaranteeing the death of harrier in the long run. Simplified, but accurate enough.
We could have had more harriers :(
In the grand scheme it doesn’t overly matter, just a bit sad such a good design was abandoned.
We’ll have to agree to disagree on that take.
As a result of 1982 - the funding taps were opened on all the rebuilt Harrier IIs. Both RAF/RN were able to argue (pointing to the fantastic record) that these upgrades were worth it. If Harrier wasn’t viewed as a success - that money and programmes such as FA2, GR5, GR7 and GR9 wouldn’t have been a thing.
In fact you COULD even argue the one of the greatest legacies was that Britain went for STVOL for it’s F-35s precisely because the concept of using Harriers from ships had been tried and tested.
The Vulcan was the RAF trying to show it could lend a hand to matters (along with providing some GR3s plus pilots to the Task Force) but nobody I know has anything but the highest of praise for the Harrier family. 1966-2010 is a good run for a jet design which didn’t really change too much in overall concept.
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I’ll review that then. Much of what I’ve read has pointed to it being valued by the fleet primarily and with RAF trying to sell Vulcan’s capacity over it, post conflict.
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If you can ever pick up or borrow this book - it’s a brilliant window into the Harriers in 1982 and what came next.
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Generally yes, most reports have been resolved now. Subject to change of course.
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I shall acquire this. Need a new book at any rate.
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thanks