Insert flashbacks to the F-106 bomb rack fiasco
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That entire interaction was zombers complaining and I loved it.
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Ok so, after the f106 event… unless it gets the gun pods it would be like 8.7 or even lower based on how bad the falcons are
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Can’t go too low, it gets Aim-26s
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Besides the falcons the F102 would get FFAR rockets and an AIM-26b, so it’s not completely dependent on getting guns; the gun pods would also be su-11s, so keep in mind their small 7.62 mm bullets might help but won’t be as effective as the m61 vulcan.
Assuming they don’t fix the guidance on the super falcons, at this point i genuinely wonder if the earlier falcons are gonna perform better in warthunder simply because they burn all the fuel in one go instead of having a sustainer rocket, and thus reach higher peak speeds. Gar-2/AIM-4B for example reaches mach 2.1 if launched at mach 0,8 in sea level, while the GAR-4A/AIM-4G peaks at mach 1.35 in the same conditions.
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Eh, i dobut gaijin would model early falcons a lot different than the ones we alreafy have
also AIR-2 would be nice
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It MAY get AIM-26s. That was a retrofit done to some aircraft late in its service life. But I’d rather see a version with only the original equipment.
FFAR rockets were removed to fit two AIM-26s in the middle missile bays.
These were only test fitted once and never fired or flew with the plane. I’d rather them not be added at all tbh.
The aim-26s were fitted to more than half of f102´s by 1963, alongside an IRST and MG-10 fire control system, and it was interchangeable with the center mounted AIM-4s. The AIM-26 also only removed the 12 FFAR rockets in the center weapon bays, the other 12 FFAR rockets in the outer weapon bays remained, you can see the launch tubes in this video.
And the gun pods were not just for testing, they were a local modification made in the Vietnam theater (at about the same time and place they were fitting gunpods in F-4s) and used for ground attack, alongside AIM-4 missiles aimed at campires and warm truck engines.
If you are really lucky you might get F-102a (early) with mg3, 24 FFAR and a choice of 6 missiles between AIM-4A and AIM-4B, and F102a (late) with mg10 (datalink + irst), 12 FFAR, 4 AIM-4C or AIM-4D, SUU-11 gunpods and an AIM-26b or 2 extra AIM-4 missiles, but that depends on gaijin´s will.
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ngl, the air-2 is one of the most overrated rockets ever that would be unironicaly op in war thunder, its an unguided rocket with a nuclear warhead, the nuclear falcon would be way better.
imagine this, you spawn an f102 with an air2 in ground, you climb and you time it enough so it blows up almost ground level, and just like that you not only wiped out the enemy team but your team aswell, this rocket should never be added
That’s the thing, they were never used. They fitted them to a plane on the ground and then realized how little firepower that was adding. It never flew with them or fired them.
It was very good IRL, very fast and with a huge blast radius to scatter a bomber formation and permit them to be picked off easily.
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It also has like 6x the power of the AIM-26A
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I believe AIR-2 genie wasn’t fitted to 102’s, just f-89s, f-101s and f-106s. F-102s would have the AIM-26a, which is like the aim-26b but with a nuclear warhead with equivalent explosive power to 250 tons of tnt (versus 1,5 kiloton in the AIR-2), but if anything that would be even better in warthunder because there is less chance of friendly fire.
As for the gunpods not being uses on the plane, I believe that every one uses tthe same source (f102 in action), and that source doesn’t imply it was merely used as a test, so unless you have outher sources there’s no point in insising it.
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I have read it in the past, I’ll try to find the source. But you won’t ever find any pictures of it in-flight with them.