The Chinese tech tree - Pakistan T-84 BM Oplot M should not fire any Chinese ammunition BTA4

Pakistan BM Oplot M in chinese tech tree should not fire BTA4 they not event order T-84 and BTA4 shell was order after the T-84 was end testing in Pakistan

fordetail - Pakistan VT-4 and DTW-125 know as BTA-4 shell arriving at Pakistan in April 2020
But Pakistan army were testing BM Oplot M in july 2015 that time line were not matching
and Pakistan not even order BM Oplot M that no way they can use BTA

that mean Pakistan T-84 has not been modified for BTA4 at all; it has no capability, nor is there any reality-based evidence to suggest it can fire BTA4! becouse the shell were arraive in Pakistan 5 year after the test of Pakistan BM Oplot M .

here list of all Top shell for each vertion they use correct to information // iRL //

T-84 oplot M- 3BM42 “Mango”
T-84 oplot P - 125mm apfsds " naiza "
T-84 oplot T - กระสุนเจาะเรียบ 125 มม. " BTA 4 "

this is was the most Perfect Fit for all
ukrain original verion get they original shell
pakistan get they pototype shell
thailand get they license production shell

T-84 oplot M 3BM42 “Mango” original ukrain shell
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T-84 oplot P 125mm apfsds " naiza " pototype shell
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T-84 oplot T - กระสุนเจาะเรียบ 125 มม. " BTA 4 " license production

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That’s a reason for it to fire the round.
There’s no evidence Oplot cannot fire BTA4.

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that out of topic it just a sample pic and not matter since it already in real sever

end testing read it after for 5 year and in 2015 BTA4 dosent dev yet it came out in 2019

U said like There’s no evidence M4 sherman cannot fire M829A2 SPFSDS so it should can fire this round

it wouldnt fit in the breech

but thailand did buy that round for their oplots so…

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thai land useing T-84 oplot T // T variant not M and Pakistan they dosent even buy a tank that mean it dosent real at all in first first and Pakistan vertion that can use BTA-4 shell it hvae to be T-84 oplot P // P variant not the M variant but T-84 oplot P dosent have real pototype either becouse T-84 oplot Pakistan dosent use them they only appear in pomotion peaper

Ah but you see, in game theyre the same thing, and in game we judge on technical compatability, so if it can use it it can get it, the thai t84 using it shows technical compatability and because gaijin was lazy and gave us the M instead of the P tha means the M gets the round

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I have only heard that the Pakistan’s 80ud is compatible with BTA4,emmm(I mean, why does Thailand’s T84 also have BTA4?

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Sekrut Dokumunts?

Likely its ballistically matched and performance is insignificantly different.
But,
Put in a bug report to get the stat card updated if you feel so strongly about it.

Yes and no.

Pakistan did trial an Oplot-M, not an Oplot-T, but they are still the same. This is because the specific Oplot-M they trialed was the one that previously tested the new APU and A/C of the Oplot-T, making it identical to Oplot-T standard.

It was built

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first i alredy said Pakistan did trial an Oplot-M not the T that why theydosent use BTA-4 shell
thailand vertion can use BTA-4 becouse thailand army have an BTA-4 licen for poduce

secound It T-84 oplot P wast built your picture it was the T-84 oplot M camo for testing in Pakistan
i already repaint and sending back to Ukrain

gaijin likes giving the wrong ammo to tanks that can technically fire it.

we even get fake ammo like L23 because of poor research by the devs

can garantee the Thai VT tank will use chinese designated ammo if it ever come to the game too, even though it probably shouldnt just like the challenger 2 starts with L23a2 for some reason

Yes, they trialed an Oplot-M, specifically the one that integrated the APU and A/C for the Oplot-T. In the image you sent there is the vent for the APU for example.

This is identical to the Oplot-T, even if it is technically a modified Oplot-M. The only difference here is the name.

Did you know? - The text above is talking about the Pakistani trialed Oplot-M, the exact tank found in game. Just because it is identical to the Oplot-T both in reality and in game doesn’t make this off-topic.


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This picture is not the tank Pakistan trialed, it’s the Oplot-P prototype. The main difference here is the different side ERA arrangement, but in this specific image the Varta APS is also removed. This tank was built based on Pakistani requirements after they tested the Oplot-M, but ultimately wasn’t accepted into service.

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More images of the prototype


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Did you know? - This second part is a direct response to the creator of this topic making claims about the Oplot-P. It is also not off-topic so you can stop mass flagging it.

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this thread sounds like an ill informed non english speakers rant about some obscure balance decision made by gaijin based on technical capability of a vehicle

like why the hell would a ukr 125mm dart not be able to be fired from an oplot M but it would from a T. they both use the same gun, calibre and FCS lol.

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If the tank can fire it, it’s correct ammo.

You also made a false equivalence fallacy.

Your posts meant to say L27 or DM53 out of Ariete for a correct comparison.
And you’re post would still be incorrect.

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Thai VT-4 uses BTA-4, really no reason to not give it that.

its probably just that its inaccurate to service more than anything + china tree issues

It’s a stretch being in the Chinese tech tree at all