The C5 Shouldnt be reserved to 3 planes

I have been truly confused with what gajinn has been doing, F16c irl carries up to 120-c7 and afaik D, the F15c was said to be “the main air superiority f15” just for them to brush it under the rug, both of these planes can fully receive them as they both get constant uptiers to 14.0, i could understand the f18s getting it first but the F15E getting it specifically makes 0 sens, F15E is the fastest at maximum air 2 air load in the game at 14.0, it literraly has no reason to have them unless all get them too

What im proposing and MANY player are proposing is for the F16C and F15C to accordingly get the same weapon they CURRENTLY use and used at the time the 120c5 was made, theres MANY pictures proving both planes carried it



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This could also bump both of these to 14.0 to solidify it since ive seen little to no downtiers in the 16 and 15 since the amraam came out

One other thing im thinking too is the eurofighter getting it as well, why wouldnt it get it when we all know it wouldnt change much to the balance of the game. 14.0 is just like irl a bvr mess and so is 13.7, this could decompress some br’s too and maybe allow 12.7 jets to not always end up in 13.3 and such

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While I would love for this to go through, I’m 100% expecting Gaijin to add “Late” variants of the F-15C and F-16C.

Specifically, the F-16C “Late” would probably end up being the F-16C PoBIT, which brings Block 40/50s up to Block 70 standards. PoBIT adds the APG-83 SABR along with 20+ other major and minor upgrades.

The F-15C “Late” will probably just get the APG-63(V)3 AESA radar and access to AIM-120C-5s.

Both of these planes will probably end up getting 9Xs in the future. I’m not sure the same can be said for the current F-15C MSIP-II and F-16C, but I guess only time will tell.

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shld be given to ef2k and grippen too imho

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Totally, gripen, ef2k f16 etc… not only hornet and f15e/i that is pure biais.

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As of making this comment, C5 got reworked. They got less drag, loft, and pulls slightly more than A/Bs.
In short, ATM it’s a very weak upgrade on maneuverability and overall performance. So i don’t know if anyone still wants that missile when the overload upgrade at a slight cost on range was the main selling point in the first place.

Personally, no problem gajin decompression BR to 14.3 for F/A-18C late, F/A-18C MLU 2, F-15E and F-15I Ra’am

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Actually no, the 120C-5s got updated on the dev server.

They now have:

  • lower drag
  • less lofting
  • less fin AOA

Here’s how the 120C-5 was performing before the dev server got updated:

Here are the parameters of that test

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And here’s how they are performing now that the dev server got updated:

As we can see it’s much more in line with the other Fox-3s in game now.

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Thanks for the update. Still the ‘maneuverability selling point’ stands due to the AOA changes. It won’t be significantly more maneuverable and it will be absurdely on par with the rest kinematically speaking.

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True but making us grind a 4th f15/16 is utterly idiotic, pobits got a good radar but gajinn wouldnt model it properly for the sake of “balance”, tbh its mot that hard for gajinn to copy paste like idk 4 lines of codes to allow the other planes to get c5 capabilities

Wouldnt really matter to me imo, i use the amraam as a medium (and by that i mean anything over 5km) range missile and at those ranges it requires little maneuverability

It would be fair enough if the US/AIM-120-reliant nations had a solution for short ranges other than out maneuvered and easily flared AIM-9Ms, but they don’t. Hence the emphasis on the AOA issue.

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I agree but with the arrival of the aim-9x (somehow not even coded lmao) on the slamraam and irs-t i fully expect them to be playable in the not so far futur, what im afraid off though is gajinn deciding to give the 9x to hornets only just because “slow jet”

Bump this I literally just unlocked the F15C as the news came out and your telling me it gets shafted instantly?

Bro why are F18s getting such special treatment, its not like they are suffering in top tier with 10 aim120s

you are truly a casual and dont know anything about 120c-5

Because the F/A-18 is an abhorrent airframe and has the lowest winrate at 14.0.

Its cause its players sucks ngl f18s got 10 amraams thats at least 2 kills per games if you use them the good way

And where whould it make a difference ? Please enlighten

120b to 120c-5 isnt big jump like r77 to 77-1 and both are really close in performance so why not add it to the game

Also true.