The British 75 mm problem

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there is a good reason why thats not the case, maybe certain list on wikipedia tells you why

I mean, people sharing classified documents is bad of course. But for most of the old forums lifetime these vehicles weren’t even in the game yet.

Another picture showing that unfilled M61 was already present at the US end of the supply chain.

British Ammunition Bulletins only refer to the M48 projectiles being robbed of their HE, with the perfectly useable casing and charge being topped with a replacement 75mm AP projectile.

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Looking back on this thread, this is a good point. A 1942 Sherman II has none of the later upgrades requested by the British, and is essentially a US-spec M4A1 with skirts.

A late model Sherman 75 with APHE, especially the prolific Sherman III, would be very welcome.

Hmm, unfortunately it does appear both M61 types were available in 1942. While the plate representative of M61 in the manual is definitely an inert round (black paint, white text) it does mention armour-piercing with high explosive is available under the painting and marking section.

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Even the 75mm TM from 1941 has both shot and shell versions of M61. Seems pretty clear that the US produced both from before they even joined the war. So realistically any QF 75mm tank, regardless of year, should be able to fire them.

The issue of M61 APHE reliability should be addressed. Then again, this is an issue with nearly every APHE tank.

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British testing on German 50mm APHE. 30 rounds, 6 detonations. In WT that’s 30 detonations. APHE damage is overperforming, so is the reliability.

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