The British 75 mm problem

We should just collapse British win rate 3.0-4.7, its only one thing that Gaijin can understand 😼

We have to give the others a chance somehow, god forbid a man have hobbies.

Would the BRs even need to be drastically changed that much? There’s only 3 tech tree vehicles that I can remember with it and the premiums are effectively minor sidegrades/reskins.

Valentine Mk.11 makes more sense at 3.0 so it isn’t lumped with the Mk.1 for whatever reason.

the Cromwell Mk.5 would be absolutely fine at 3.7 with filler as essentially a Chaffee without reverse gear.

The Churchill Mk.7 could mayyybe be problematic but the T14 still sorta does what it does but better and with a stab.

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I think that most, these vehicles would move up by maybe one or two BR jumps (0.3 - 0.7 BRs)

The fact they’d get APHE doesn’t change the horrible pen of the gun or the bad shell velocity.

Most British tanks as these BRs have enough drawbacks (bad reverse or slow speed for example) make it so they arent really overpowered.

Im bored so I’ll just estimate what BRs they could go to, I’ll also include 6 pounder APHE as thats been reported and accepted.

Crusader MK.III: 3.0 → 3.7 (potential APDS addition too?)
Valentine XI: 2.7 → 3.0 - (Decent gun but very slow)
Valentine XI: 3.0 → 3.3 - (Good gun but too slow to do much)
AEC MK.II: 3.3 → 4.0 - (Relatively fast and great gun, especially with APHE)
Cromwell V: 3.7 → 3.7 X - (Even with APHE, it’s relatively comparable to a Chaffee)
Cromwell I: 3.7 → 4.0 - (Better than V as it has a 4 second reload and stab)
SARC MK.VI: 3.7 → 4.3 - (Highly mobile and quite small with a good gun)
RAM II: 3.7 → 4.0 - (Basically just a sherman with a better penning gun)
Churchill III: 4.0 → 4.3 - (Now the same BR as the NA.75 that has APHE)
Churchill MK.VII / Croc: 4.7 → 5.0 - (Could remain at 4.7 to be honest, but probably too strong for 3.7s)
Excelsior: 4.0 → 4.3 - (Fast and good armour, probably too good for 4.0 with APHE)

That’s just my estimates, I’d rather see these vehicles move up a bit and be more enjoyable to play than just remain where they are and keep being extremely medicore

Hmm

I couldnt think of anything too profound, they’re very boring tanks

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In all fairness, the T14s armour is much worse than the Churchill

You can pen the T14s front turret with any gun above 90-100mm of pen

Same with the side armour, it’s only 50mm which isnt bad but it’s not great

They could leave the Mk.7 at 4.7, I don’t think it would be extremely overpowered there, it’s too slow to really go around slaughtering stuff

I’d leave it where it is, but correct the gun stats to that of the 6pdr Mk.3. Could always still split it into 2-3 variants to fill the 4.0 slot. I’d prefer having the current one with the Mk.III gun, and another with applique and the Mk.V gun.

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So we have about half a step in the right direction, as it sounds like they want to sweep the idea under the rug as soon as possible.

Brits will only get APHE when it’s fixed and no longer a 360° mini-nuke…

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So never

T14 has much higher mobility which means it’s capable of flanking a target.

A mention of it in the news post is a positive (half) step regardless. Remember, before this we had zero steps for a very long time.

Indeed, at least they’ve talked about it, even if the wording makes it sound like they want to do anything but give it to them.

Even though some tanks need it to be worthy of their current BRs as they are already over BRed.

I want to point a really an important detail we missed.

When was the vote for APHE nerf, at the same time, there was an upgrade for APHE mechanic without a vote.
Wich turns APHE top part into solid shell after explosion. This leads to more advantages of APHE. Before, you couldn’t pen tank through engine, and now you can. Before, you couldn’t destroy engine by explosion in crew zone, because of partition between crew and engine. So that if enemy driver was alive he could drive away from your field of view. Now he couldn’t, because APHE top part can pen partition and destroy engine.

And with that MASSIVE buff, not a single BR has been raised.
So, why APHE addition for British tanks must increase BR? If even APHE buff for APHE vehicles wasn’t considered as reason for BR rising?

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I meant that this change has been implemented since then.

Yeah, exactly. cant possibly expect to move soviet vehicles up in BR

The ironic part is all QF 75mm ammo is American ammo.

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