Power transmission
tank hull, made with a computer
cut view of the gearbox
https://img-forum-wt-com.cdn.gaijin.net/original/3X/a/5/a599340a9f3e2aea49887a065c87f3b1e7557df7.jpeg
Connection between the transmission and the engines
Sadly I dont have higher resolution pictures of the other ones, I downloaded them from the archived website because the website no longer exists.
AC IV never existed in metal. The AC IV in-game is a what-if.
The 17-Pdr AC that was built was in a pre-production E2 hull.
Basically every component existed individually at least more or less. The A.C.IIIs that were made and/or partially made are the engine and hull combo with a smaller turret ring. And the E2 prototype tested the turret. You know, basically. I’ve got to get off my butt and do some more AC suggestions.
Different turret. That was a 64” turret ring. AC IV was to have a 70” one. There’s other potential changes to such as armour thickness, different engine, internal layout, etc.
As it was never built well never know for sure. There’s plenty of preliminary information and stats, which is largely what WT is based on. I should know, I gave Gaijin a lot of it when I did several bug reports on it.
That’s why I said basically lol, basically the turret design on a smaller turret ring. It has the gun mounted and everything at least. So it’s not like anyone can say a 17pdr AC was not possible/a pipe dream. Indeed, the mount design was used to aid in building the Sherman Firefly.
Any changes that may have eventuated would probably not have made a notable difference in War Thunder.
I want this vehicle so bad can they just added!
I see the images keep on breaking/disappearing, does anyone know why this keeps on happening and how to fix the images for good… it shouldn’t be that hard to just display the damn images!
I dont know about from where you copy and paste your images, but I paste it in discord and then copy it and paste it in the suggestion. Those images from discord were all broken on some of my suggestions.
I have word documents of my suggestions and I replaced the broken images on the forum with the same images but from the word documents and not from discord. That helped me and fixed the issue.
Thanks, upon looking at which images keep breaking, it seems to be the images shared in this forum that I copy straight into my post. I’ll try to copy them from different sources instead.
Edit: I fixed the images now, hopefully they won’t break again.
One of the best suggestions on this forum +1
Does anyone have any more information, any sources, or insights that could help with the following:
I still don’t know whether the hull machine gun was part of the finalised design/prototype vehicle, or if they got rid of it during development
I still don’t know whether the frontal hull mid-plate was 100 mm or 120 mm thick in the end. It would make sense that at first it was 100 mm thick but then they increased it to 120 mm later on during development, but they also could have made it 120 mm thick at first and reduced it to 100 mm to make it easier to build
I’m now not entirely sure about the situation with the Tas’ 80 mm gun. We know that Hungary first made the Bofors 80 mm AA gun under licence as the 29/38M. Then the 29/44M was developed by DIMAVAG as a replacement, with the first prototype being completed in October 1943 and tested. The tests revealed some problems, so it went back to development and they estimated mass production would start from summer 1944. At first, I thought the 29/44M was specifically designed as a tank gun, but now having looked at photos of the 29/38M and the photo of the 29/44M prototype (on the tank encyclopedia page), I think the 29/44M was first designed as an AA gun to replace the 29/38M, but was decided to also be converted into a tank gun for the Tas. By the time the Tas’ prototypes were destroyed and the project was eventually abandoned (27 July 1944 - October 1944), it seems no guns were made for the Tas. Neither the 75 mm 43.M L/46 replacement gun, nor the 80 mm tank gun, nor was the 80 mm 29/44M AA gun fully finished and produced, even though the (inadequately) functioning prototype was already finished back in October 1943. Does anyone know about the seemingly missing pieces of this story, like what actually happened to these guns, how far did each one come along in development? Also, is it even correct to name the Tas’ 80 mm gun the 29/44M?
“Sadly it was not fully built because the factory was bombed :(”
that is the 80mm version, the 75mm gun was installed for testing purposes.
“As for the 44M. Im mostly sceptical of the basis for its addition, perhaps when vehicles of some degrees of completion become relatively accepted and common-ish as possible additions”
So, You are ok with the 75mm version, but not the 80mm version? Understandable.
It was a prototype but its not a copy-paste tank so I would like to see it in-game. Tas and Nimród are the current two big missing tanks from the hungarian tech-line right now.
Nimrod? It’s just L-62, but worse.
Nimrod shouldn’t be worse, it has 1 more crew member and APHEBC shells, it is on par at least.
And it has a HEAT grenade that can pen even an IS-2
Really? That’s fricking awesome! Got a source for it that I can check out? :)
This is not the first time this had been suggested, there must be a reason why it was never accepted
