The Ayit, originally at 9.3 was the only viable vehicle at rank VI for arcade, with the Sambad at 9.0 being the only other “contender” for being a somewhat competitive vehicle for its BR.
Now that the Ayit sits at 9.7, It commonly faces 10.0, 10.3, 10.7 and 11.0 jets. This is just unacceptable, as it gets outclassed in every aspect, It cant even be used as a strike vehicle as it is so slow compared to everything else at the same BR and higher.
As of today, the only time this vehicle is truly competitive is in a full downtier where it sees (8.7-9.0) and as we all know that MIGHT be 1 out of 12~ games and even then its far from “the best option” compared to what it will face.
I suggest the Ayit be moved back to (9.3) for arcade battles as that was the “fairest” rating for its performance, though 9.0 would be much more appropriate.
Edit: Just a image of a fully spaded Ayit for reference.
Edit 2: For those who think “No one plays arcade.”
You actually think it’s appropriate for a jet with CM’s and 18g missiles to be @ 9.0?
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The Ayit is 9.3 air, which i think it always was. Only for ground it changed to 9.7, which is good, because that thing was, and well, still is a monster.
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No, its 9.7 in arcade. It was just changed. I think I know considering I use it.
You can keep these comments to yourself.
Ah yes, those should be because of the BR changes most likely then, not sure if it was the recent one or an older one tho.
MiG-21 S is at 9.0
Is that funny shit as well?
You ignored the entire issue. and posted a spam “meme”, this right here is why these forums do not work and continue to frustrate anyone with any REAL concerns.
This site may as well just be rebranded as a reddit/4chan outpost because thats what everyone here acts like.
Yes, the Mig21 with no CM’s and 10G missiles is @ 9.0 in AAB.
Kudos on completely ignoring WHY your suggestion is laughable.
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It was the recent change, the Ayit is unplayable.
The entire Israeli tech tree is now dead, and frankly im getting very tired of this “arcade players dont matter” attitude, considering a majority of the player base, is playing arcade.
Why is it okay for players to go around slandering and talking down to those who enjoy a different play style? If NO ONE PLAYED ARCADE then there probably wouldn’t be BR changes for it. The elitists attitude has got to stop, and it starts with how staff approach it.
Making lame “Arcade player bad LAWL” jokes on every god damn post about arcade is getting extremely tiring.
You really dont need Counter measures when you go double the speed of everyone else in the lobby pal.
And these are SARH missiles, a majority of the enemies it faces doesn’t even have RWR let alone chaff.
Mig-21S is worse in air arcade than the Ayit.
Ayit gets 110% throttle while Mig-21 loses its permanent AB, countermeasures with gun, and of course the arcade airframe which benefits subsonics more than supersonics.
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I mean is this a troll? The Ayit at 110% is 60% of the top speed of the MiG-21S
I play Ayit ALOT, I have an aced crew in mine, its really good at 9.7, 4- 18g missiles, agm-65 and a nice bomb loadout. your comparing it to a mig that is a COMPLETELY different playstyle, the mig also has basically zero strike capability, you shouldn’t be dogfighting with fighter jets but using your missiles to hit jets with no flares. when striking in grb use the agm65 to take out any spaa first then you have 6- 250kg bombs for tanks. Probably the best all around 9.7 in the game…
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Okay again, this is about arcade air battles. Not Ground RB.
@W0ckySlush
In arcade battles, top speed means nothing. Your average engagement speed in air arcade is ~800kph.
You can’t reach top speed in air arcade for afterburning jets because afterburner is timed.
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Right. But the Sambad sits at 9.0 because of its afterburner and top speed. Makes sense.
Keep in mind this has nothing but Shafrir 1 missiles, worse than AIM-9Bs. No RWR, No Radar, No CM and 30mm DEFA cannons.
Shafnir 1, AIM-9B, and R-3S are all equivalents.
In air arcade, Ayit easily outdogfights Mig-21S [which Ayit does in RB as well].
And yes, Sambad has good guns.
The WEP timer in arcade equalizes more than you think.
A2D is 9.0 in air arcade, and that’s a turboprop.
This is how fast a Mig-21S gets due to the timer:
So whats your point buddy? Does speed matter in arcade or not? This conversation is going nowhere as you are playing both sides of the coin.
And if you are dogfighting in the mig-21S to begin with, then your opinion on how it should be placed is probably invalid, just to be blatantly honest.
Like truthfully I think our back and forth is done here. Bringing the A2D-1 into this conversation is WILD.
bait used to be believable
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Stop trying to cause arguements flagging posts and then replying to people, if you don’t have anything to say regarding the thread then don’t post.
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