Neither is how this game works.
BTW- Israel has good “Arab” lineups between 7.7 and 8.3.
no, too much copy paste vehicle and theres no really unique vehicle
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+1 For me, copy pastes don’t really bother me if it gives access to some unique vehicles with new gameplay. Plus this will help the game to reach more audience in arab countries. If it gets added I may even buy the premiums.
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We have enough tree’s as it is we don’t need another one…
I mean at this pace, Gaijin is going to add the Millennium Falcon by next Christmas. I don’t really mind if they start focusing on expanding horizontally rather than vertically. Even if they’re literally ALL copy-pasted, it’s just more content and I don’t rly understand why people don’t want more content. It’s not like Gaijin is going to add fictional vehicles so might as well add every single country in the world, I genuinely don’t see the issue in that.
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Its probably better for this tree to limit to around 5 nations since 22 is an absurd amount to try and combine. I counted 13 nations included in the tech tree: Lebanon, Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Jordan, Morocco, Libya, Tunisia, Algeria, Oman, UAE, Qatar, Saudi Arabia which is a lot.
This seems to rely much more heavily on Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Iraq, and Syria - which I reckon would make a bit better in building a tech tree but personally, you can probably leave out Iraq and Syria and still have a somewhat decent tree with those 3 nations: Egypt, Jordan, and Lebanon.
You can probably also just start immediately to Rank IV similar to the Israeli tech tree since you can argue that the modern states of Egypt, Jordan, and Lebanon really only came into being post WW2. Im honestly quite surprised not a whole lot more Gulf States vehicles have been added like in the case of Saudi Arabia and UAE which wouldve procured a lot of toys from the west but is notably missing, and North Korean vehicles that were bought by Egypt.
I think the vehicles listed out in the proposed tech tree barely scratches the surface because Im pretty sure theres a bunch more unique upgrades and modifications out there and you probably missed them because it was decided to combine the entirety of the Arab League itself. Aside from that, I appreciate the effort you poured into this and its probably only you that worked on this - tip, dont try to carry the burden all by yourself. Try to start a discussion page for Arab vehicles in the Machinery of War tag so you guys can slowly build out a better Pan-Arab tree.
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Did u just suggest putting ARABS as a sub tree in ISRAEL TREE!!!
Looks like a great tree! +1
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Diabolical
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I would like to have to the Arab league forces tech tree in warthunder but try to make it less copy paste. or at lest add stuff that is unique in terms of something we don’t have like one of the hybrid panzer 4 or gun swaped tanks.
for example for the spaa line
Rank 1
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Toyota Land Cruiser HZJ75 (DShK) [Yemen]
Toyota Land Cruiser HZJ75 (ZPU-1) [Libyan National Army]
Toyota Land Cruiser HZJ75 (ZPU-2) [Libyan National Army]
Rank 2
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HMMWV M998 (ZPU-2) “UN” [Morocco]
Toyota Land Cruiser HZJ79 (1x30mm AK-230) [Libyan National Army]
Toyota Land Cruiser HZJ75 (M55A4B1) [Libyan National Army]
HMMWV M1114 UAH (ZU-23-2) “Box Turret” [Iraq]
HMMWV M1114 UAH (ZU-23-2) “Back Mount” [Iraq]
BTR-152 (M58) 4xTK vz 53 [Egypt]
Rank 3
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BTR-50PK [Iraq]
BTR-50P [Iraq]
BTR-50 (ZU-23-2) “Ansar Al-Marji’iyah PMU” [Iraq]
MT-LBV W/ZU-23-1 [Iraq]
MT-LBV ‘Dudul - دُلدُل’ [Iraq]
MT-LB (ZPU-23-2) [Iraq]
MT-LB (ZU-23-2) [Iraq]
MT-LBV (ZU-23-2) [Iraq]
https://i.imgur.com/GCixXlP.jpg
BTR-50P (30mm Praga PLDvK VZ. 53/59) [Iraq]
Rank 4
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Mercedes Benz LG 315 (37mm 61-K) [Lebanon]
https://i.imgur.com/7rVXDiN.jpg
BRDM-2 (ZPU-2) [Iraq]
BRDM-2 Mahmia (ZU-23-2) [Syria]
Khatim-3 Self Propelled 23mm Anti-Aircraft Guns [Sudan]
Oshkosh M-ATV (ZU-23-2) [Yemen]
Oshkosh M-ATV-BTR-80A Turret [Yemen]
M809 Series 5-Tonner (57mm AZP S-60) [Yemen]
you somewhat get the point
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I made the suggestion on the old from you can use that to get the vehicles photos and name
you can make the tt look cleaner by only using official nation vehicles like this Egyptian made jeep atgm platform.
or this Jordanian Toyota atgm platform
But it is complicated especially for Iraq because they officially made stuff like this. Yes it is not a rebel vehicle.
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Algerian milk truck: MT-12 100MM mounted on a Mercedes Zetros truck
I made a very detailed suggestion post about it, with complete translation and description of the ammunition and other specs, but it’s been refused for some reason sadly and I completely lost the post.
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As much as I’d love more content to play, it’s already a nightmare trying to get anything fixed in Israel’s tree.
I voted no. So I’ll explain my point of view. In my opinion, there’s virtually nothing fully locally produced in this proposal, I mean, there’s hardly a single indigenous base! I don’t see the point of adding yet another huge amount of copy-paste to the game, for the negligible benefit of a few major modifications to imported vehicles, and what’s more, not by one country, but by taking an entire group of countries from a geographical area to justify what is presented. Engineering is still nowadays so poor for each of these cases taken in isolation that it’s almost ridiculous to want to do it all like that.
Well I admit some of these things deserve to be added to the game, but not in this way, not requiring all this sort of copy-pasting! At a pinch, we could add a few of these vehicles to sub-trees, or even as squadron or event vehicles, but in the nation trees that are the technical basis of their existence.
Of course, I am only expressing my opinion.
I feel like if we as a community came together and tried to find the unique tanks for this tt it would end up being a good one and not a copy-pasted one. Do keep in mind the arab league has 22 nations there is a lot of opportunity to find tanks that are not documented or the documents are not online. For example, I found 5.
The trucks with the 37mm on back are 2 different chassis.
I decided to make my own version by using the old forum suggestion I made. Since I did not like this copy-pasty version. I will update it with time by using more of the tanks we find or suggestions on rankings and which line it should go to.
Light Tanks
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Rank 1
Rank 2
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Staghound MK.I-AEC [Lebanon]
Staghound MK.I-Lengthened AEC [Lebanon]
Staghound MK.I-AEC Turret (75mm M3) [Lebanon]
Staghound Mk.III-AEC [Lebanon]
Staghound Mk.III-AEC (1982) [Lebanon]
Rank 3
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Marmon-Herrington Mk. IVF (6-pdr) [Jordan]
Scorpion 76 mm KADDB [Jordan]
Toyota Land Cruiser HZJ79 (SG-82) [Free Syriain Army]
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Toyota Land Cruiser HZJ75 (SPG-82) [Syrian Democratic Forces]
Toyota Land Cruiser HZJ79 (SPG-82) [Syrian Democratic Forces]
AL WAHSH 105mm Mobile Weapon System [Jordan]
Rank 4
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Karaba VTG01 4x4 Light Tactical Vehicle (SOBA - SPG-9 73 mm Anti-tank Gun BRY04) [Sudan]
https://2img.net/h/s11.postimage.org/wx7c7s9f7/vtg01.jpg
OT-62A Cascavel [Iraq]
Raqqa BMP-1 [Syrian Democratic Forces]
EE-9 Cascavel (2A28 Grom) [Iraq]
BMTLP-1 [Iraq]
Stallion (Ferret) Armored Car (106-mm M40A1) [Jordan]
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BTR-60PB-AML-90 [Djibouti]
BTR-60PB-AML-90 [Yemen]
Rank 5
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HMMWV M1114 UAH-Objective Gunner Protection Kit (O-GPK) Turret (SPG-9) [Iraq]
BMP-1S [Egypt]
KADDB Al-Wahsh APC (SPG-9) [Libyan National Army]
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Toyota Land Cruiser HZJ79 (M40 106mm Recoilless Rifle) [Yemen]
Armored Toyota Land Cruiser HZJ79 (M40 106mm Recoilless Rifle Turret) [Yemen]
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AB3 Black Iris (M40A1 Recoilless Rifle) [Jordan]
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Al-Washaq 4x4 Light ATV (106-mm M40A1) [Jordan]
Al-Washaq 4x4 Light ATV (Quad NASHAB) [Jordan]
Toyota Land Cruiser HZJ79-BMP-1 [Free Syrian Army]
Shareef-3 BTR-SH1 [Sudan]
Rank 6
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Fahd-280-30 [Egypt]
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Scorpion (CVR(T)) [Jordan]
Scorpion ALVIS [Jordan]
Scorpion SCIMITAR [Jordan]
Scorpion KASTET [Jordan]
Al Jazeera-2 APC (Cockerill Mk 7 90mm) [Saudi Arabia]
Rank 7
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Wahash 8x8 [United Arab Emirates]
Enigma 8x8 EDT IFV [United Arab Emirates]
RABDAN 8x8 [United Arab Emirates]
B1 Centauro SDLE [Jordan]
Rank 8
Medium Tanks
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Rank 1
Rank 2
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M4A4 “Siqaaza” [Egypt]
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Pz.Kpfw. IV Ausf.J-Ausf.C Hybrid [Syria]
Pz.Kpfw. IV Ausf.J-Ausf.D Hybrid [Syria]
Rank 3
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Pz.Kpfw. IV Ausf. J (Mod.1955) [Syria]
Pz.Kpfw. IV Ausf. G (Mod.1955) [Syria]
Pz.Kpfw. IV Ausf. H (Mod.1956) [Syria]
Rank 4
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T-34-85 (Mod.1960) [Syria]
T-34-85 (Mod 55) [Egypt]
FV4101 Charioteer (Upgraded Turret) [Lebanon]
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UAZ-469 Up-Armored (SPG-9 Recoilless Rifle) [Iraq]
UAZ-469 Up-Armored (M40A1 106mm Recoilless Rifle) [Iraq]
EE-9 Cascavel Up-Armored (2A28 Grom) [Iraq]
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Rank 5
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BMP-1 Mahmia 1st Generation [Syria]
BMP-1 Adra 1st Generation
BMP-1 Mahmia 2nd Generation [Syria]
BMP-1 Adra 2nd Generation
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BMP-1 Saddam I [Iraq]
BMP-1 Saddam II [Iraq]
BMP-1SE [Egypt]
BMP-1 Shafrah [Syria]
Or BMP-1 Grendizer
T-55A-BMP-1 [Syrian Democratic Forces]
Rank 6
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Khalid FV4030/2 [Jordan]
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Ramses II Prototype [Egypt]
Ramses II [Egypt]
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T-55A Mahmia 1st Generation [Syria]
T-55A Adra 1st Generation
T-55A Mahmia 2nd Generation [Syria]
T-55A Adra 2nd Generation
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Kafeel-1 Prototype [Iraq]
Kafil-1 [Iraq]
Al-Kafeel [Iraq]
M60A3E [Egypt]
Rank 7
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Vehicle Folder
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M60 Phoenix Early [Jordan]
M60 Phoenix [Jordan]
M60 Pheonix Upgrade [Jordan]
M60 Phoenix Survivability Upgrade [Jordan]
Vehicle Folder (there is T-72 Shafrah/T-72 Grendizer from I to VII but im only adding VII for now)
Vehicle Folder (same here there is T-72AV Shafrah/T-72AV Grendizer from I to VII but im only adding VII for now)
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T-72AV Shafrah VII [Syria]
Or T-72AV Grendizer VII
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T-72 Mahmia 1st Generation [Syria]
Or T-72 Adra 1st Generation
T-72 Mahmia 1st Generation Late [Syria]
Or T-72 Adra 1st Generation Late
T-72 Mahmia 2nd Generation [Syria]
Or T-72 Adra 2nd Generation
T-72 Mahmia Total Protection [Syria]
Or T-72 Adra Total Protection
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Al Hussein [Jordan]
AL Hussein Hybrid [Jordan]
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Tariq-Falcon 1 [Jordan]
Al Hussein-Falcon 1 [Jordan]
Al Hussein-Falcon 2 [Jordan]
Rank 8
Tank Destroyer
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Rank 1
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Lorraine 37L Chenillette SPG (75 mm Gun M1916) [Lebanon]
Lorraine 37L Chenillette SPG (QF 25pdr) [Syria]
Marmon-Harrington Mark IV (3.7 inch 4×4 Self-Propelled Howitzer) [Jordan]
Rank 2
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GAZ-3308 Sadko (ZiS-2) [Syria]
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T-55/160 Prototype [Iraq]
T-55/160 [Iraq]
MT-LB 2B9 Vasilek [Iraq]
MT-LB NORICUM SM-4 [Iraq]
Rank 3
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M4A4 (Schneider Canon de 105 L mle 1936 SR) [Egypt]
Sturmgeschütz III Ausf. G Mod.1956 [Syria]
Hummel (Sd.Kfz. 165) Mod.1956 [Syria]
M113 (122mm D-30) [Libyan National Army]
T-34 (122 mm D-30) Self-Propelled Howitzer [Syria]
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T-122 (T-34/122 Self-propelled Howitzer) [Egypt]
T-100 (T-34/100 Self-propelled Howitzer) [Egypt]
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2K12E “Kvadrat” (85 mm KS-1) [Syria]
2K12E “Kvadrat” (100 mm KS-19) [Syria]
Rank 4
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Isuzu NPR-HD-73 mm 2A28 Grom Gun Platform System [Iraq]
PTS-M BS-3 100mm [Egypt]
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Khalifa-1 GHY02 122mm D-30 6x6 Self-Propelled Howitzer [Sudan]
Khalifa-2 GHY03 122mm D-30 6x6 Self-Propelled Howitzer [Sudan]
Ural-4320-1911-30 (D-30 122mm) [Egypt]
ACMAT TPK 4.20-NA12 (SS.11) [Lebanon]
BMP-1SE SPG [Egypt]
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T-55 (122mm D-30) [Egypt]
T-55 (122mm D-30) [Lebanon]
Tiran 5 (122mm D-30) [Lebanon]
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SP-122 RO SPG [Egypt]
SP-122 BMY SPG Early Prototype [Egypt]
SP-122 BMY SPG Prototype [Egypt]
SP-122 BMY SPG [Egypt]
Rank 5
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IVECO TRAKKER 420 8X4 (M-46 130mm) Short Cab [Syria]
IVECO TRAKKER 420 8X4 (M-46 130mm) Long Cab [Syria]
Mercedes-Benz Actros 4140 (M-46 130mm) Short Cab [Syria]
Mercedes-Benz Actros 4140 (M-46 130mm) Long Cab [Syria]
Ural-4320-1911-30 (M46-1M 130mm) [Egypt]
PT-76 (130mm Type 59-1) [Iraq]
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RUM I 105mm 4x4 Self-Propelled Howitzer [Jordan]
Or Prototype Self-Propelled 105mm Gun
RUM II 155mm 6x6 Self-Propelled Howitzer [Jordan]
155mm Howitzer on 6X6 Platform [Jordan]
T-55/130 Self Propelled Gun [Iraq]
HMMWV M998 (90 mm D921/GIAT F1) [Government Of National Accord]
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Land Rover 101 FC (Swingfire) [Egypt]
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CJ-8 Jeep (Swingfire) [Egypt]
CJ-8 Jeep (HJ-73) [Egypt]
TJL Jeep (HJ-73) [Egypt]
JADARA QUAD-2 TERMINATOR [Jordan]
Ajban LRSOV (FLETCHER 70 mm LGR) [United Arab Emirates]
Mercedes Actros 3244 8x4 SU 39870 Rivenes-T-55A [Iraq]
Khatim-4 BMP-SH2 Anti-Tank Guided Missile Carriers [Sudan]
MAP II (DAWSAR) [Jordan]
Rank 6
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Al Dawsar [Jordan]
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Al-Majnoon 155 mm Self-Propelled Artillery System [Iraq]
Al-Fao 210 mm Self-Propelled Artillery System [Iraq]
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CJ-7 Jeep (BGM-71 TOW) [Egypt]
YJ Jeep (MILAN) [Egypt]
CJ-8 Jeep (MILAN) [Egypt]
HMMWV M998 (MILAN) [Egypt]
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HMMWV M1114 UAH-Objective Gunner Protection Kit (O-GPK) Turret (Kornet) [Iraq]
HMMWV M1114 UAH-Gunner Protection Kit (GPK) Turret (Kornet) [Iraq]
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Stallion I (Kornet-E) [Jordan]
Stallion II (Kornet-E) [Jordan]
Alrobot [Iraq]
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JADARA TWIN TERMINATOR [Jordan]
JADARA QUAD TERMINATOR [Jordan]
Al-Masmak Nyoka Mk 2 (ATG) [Saudi Arabia]
Vehicle Folder
Multi-Task Vehicle (4x4) (ATG) [Saudi Arabia]
Rank 7
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Enigma 8x8 BAE Systems M777 Howitzer [United Arab Emirates]
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M1025A2 HMMWV-KBP 9P163-2 Kvartet Turret [United Arab Emirates]
AJBAN 440A-KBP 9P163-2 Kvartet Turret [United Arab Emirates]
AJBAN 440A Up-Armored-KBP 9P163-2 Kvartet Turret [United Arab Emirates]
Ajban 447A-KBP 9P163-2 Kvartet Turret [United Arab Emirates]
Vehicle Folder
Rank 8
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AB3 Desert Iris (Twin Helfires Launcher) [Jordan]
AL WAHSH-ASELSAN Anti-Tank Missile Launching System (MLS) [Jordan]
Self-propelled anti-aircraft weapon
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Rank 1
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Land Rover Series II SWB (12.7 mm M2HB Machine Gun) [Jordan]
Rank 2
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HMMWV M998 (ZPU-2) “UN” [Morocco]
Toyota Land Cruiser HZJ75 (M55A4B1) [Libyan National Army]
BTR-152 (M58) 4xTK vz 53 [Egypt]
Rank 3
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Vehicle Folder
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BTR-50PK [Iraq]
BTR-50P [Iraq]
BTR-50 (ZU-23-2) “Ansar Al-Marji’iyah PMU” [Iraq]
BTR-50P (30mm Praga PLDvK VZ. 53/59) [Iraq]
Vehicle Folder
MT-LB (ZPU-23-2) [Iraq]
MT-LB (ZU-23-2) [Iraq]
MT-LBV (ZU-23-2) [Iraq]
Rank 4
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Mercedes Benz LG 315 (37mm 61-K) [Lebanon]
Ural-4320 (57mm AZP S-60) [Syria]
Renault Kerax 330 (57mm AZP S-60) [Free Syrian Army]
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BRDM-2 (ZPU-2) [Iraq]
BRDM-2 Mahmia (ZU-23-2) [Syria]
Khatim-3 BMP-SH3 Self Propelled 23mm Anti-Aircraft Guns [Sudan]
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Oshkosh M-ATV (ZU-23-2) [Yemen]
Oshkosh M-ATV-BTR-80A Turret [Yemen]
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KADDB Ratel BAU 23-2 [Yemen]
KADDB Ratel BAU 23-2 [Jordan]
KAMAZ-4350 (30mm AK-230) [Libyan National Army]
Al-Washaq 4x4 (Twin 12.7 mm M2HB Machine Gun) [Jordan]
AB14 Temsah Heavy IFV (GIAT M.621) [Jordan]
Rank 5
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AL SHIBL 2 (7,62-mm Six-barrel Dillon Aero M134D Minigun) [Saudi Arabia]
Ajban 447A Platt MR550 Turret (7,62-mm Six-barrel Dillon Aero M134D Minigun) [United Arab Emirates]
Al-Washaq 4x4 Light ATV (GAU-17/A) [Jordan]
T-55 [IQ S-60 Mod] [Iraq]
Ahmed Almazroei Innovation Center modular armoured vehicle [United Arab Emirates]
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Tawazun NIMR 6x6 Multi-Role Comba Vehicle [United Arab Emirates]
Hafeet 640A BAE TRT-R30MK 30mm [United Arab Emirates]
BTR-152V1 (M167A1 Vulcan 20mm) [Sudan]
Rank 6
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Cougar 6x6 (MRAP) (c/w TAK-4 suspension) 20mm Vulcan [Jordan]
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Sinai-Sam [Egypt]
Sinai-23 Prototype 1 [Egypt]
Sinai-23 Prototype 2 [Egypt]
Nile-23 [Egypt]
Sinai-23 [Egypt]
Rank 7
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Vehicle Folder
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NIMRAD [Jordan]
NIMR ALGERIE s.p.a [Algeria]
HAFEET ADV [United Arab Emirates]
Hafeet 620 MBDA MPCS [United Arab Emirates]
Rank 8
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ALAS-S Coastal Defence Missile System Launcher [United Arab Emirates]
Armored Infantry Fighting Vehicle
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Rank 1
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Armored Toyota Land Cruiser HZJ79 (DShK Turret) [Yemen]
Armored Toyota Land Cruiser HZJ79 (DShK Turret) [Yemen]
Rank 2
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BRDM-2 (ZU-23-1) [Iraq]
Oshkosh M-ATV (BTR-60PB 23mm 2A14M) [Yemen]
BRDM-2 Mahmia (NSV 12.7mm and AGS-17) [Syria]
NIMR 6X6 (AGS-17) [Jordan]
T-55 (ZU-23-1) [Iraq]
or Type 23
Rank 3
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Al-Masmak Nyoka Mk 1 (40mm Automatic Grenade Launcher) [Saudi Arabia]
Al-Masmak Nyoka Mk 2 (40mm Automatic Grenade Launcher) [Saudi Arabia]
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AL SHIBL 1 (40mm Automatic Grenade Launcher) [Saudi Arabia]
AL SHIBL 2 (40mm Automatic Grenade Launcher) [Saudi Arabia]
Multi-Task Vehicle (4x4) (40mm Automatic Grenade Launcher) [Saudi Arabia]
Vehicle Folder
Rank 4
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Isuzu NPR-XD (Fahd APC ZU-23-1) [Iraq]
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcyASFZXEAA45at?format=jpg&name=small
BMP-1 (ZU-23-2) Shafrah [Syria]
T-55 (57mm AZP S-60) [Iraq]
or Type 57
EE-9 Cascavel (M1939-37mm) [Iraq]
Rank 5
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JAIS N35 4x4 MRAP [United Arab Emirates]
Al-Masmak Nyoka Mk 2 (25mm Auto Cannon) [Saudi Arabia]
NIMR-II (UW1 Remote Control Weapon Station (RCWS)) [Algeria]
NIMR 6X6 (TRT-25MM) [Jordan]
Shareef-1 DCA01 [Sudan]
Shareef-2 DCA02 [Sudan]
Rank 6
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EE-9 Cascavel (Oerlikon KBA-B02 25mm) [Iraq]
BMP-1 Upgraded-30mm 2A42 Cobra one-man Turret [Sudan]
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NIMR 6X6 (ABM-BSM 30 “Whirlwind”) [Jordan]
NIMR 4X4 AJBAN 420 (ABM-BSM 30 “Whirlwind”) [Jordan]
Rank 7
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Al-Mared IFV [Jordan]
Rank 8
Multiple Launch Rocket System
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Rank 1
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UAZ-469 (Type 63 MLRS (1x4)) [Iraq]
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CJ-8 Jeep Nather-1 [Egypt]
Fahd Nather-2 [Egypt]
Rank 2
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UAZ-469 (Type 63 MLRS) [Iraq]
MT-LB (132 mm M13 Rocket) [Iraq]
AIL M325 Command Car (Type 63 MRL) [Lebanon]
Rank 3
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RL812/TLC [Egypt]
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Praga V3S RM-51 (vz.51) 130mm MRL [Syria]
Praga V3S M-51 130mm MLRS [Egypt]
Rank 4
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Cougar 4x4 (MRAP) (Type 63 MLRS) [Djibouti]
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TAKA-1 BRY03 Rocket Launcher System Carrier [Sudan]
Kia KM450 (RL-4) [Egypt]
TAKA-2 BRY04 Rocket Launcher System Carrier [Sudan]
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MT-LB (2xType 63 MLRS) [Iraq]
MT-LBV (2xType 63 MRLS) [Iraq]
MT-LBV (2xType 63 MLRS) Late [Iraq]
M1025A2 HMMWV (AB-19 MLRS) [Jordan]
Rank 5
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MT-LB (81 mm IA3-66 MLRS) [Iraq]
GAZ-66 (81 mm IA3-66 MLRS) Prototype [Iraq]
GAZ-66 (81 mm IA3-66 MLRS) [Iraq]
CJ-8 Jeep (80-mm MLRS VAP-80) [Egypt]
ZX Grand Tiger (1x36 SNEB 68mm RPs) [Free Syriain Army]
Walid MLRS [Egypt]
Ford F-350 Super Duty (Arkan Rocket Launchers) [Iraq]
M35A2 Series 2½-ton 6×6 Cargo Truck (BM-11 122mm MRL) [Lebanon]
Rank 6
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EE-11 URUTU (Type 83 MLRS) [Libyan National Army]
EE-11 URUTU (BM-11 122mm MRL) [Libyan National Army]
Golan-1 [Syria]
Golan 65 and 250 will be added soon just need to figure out the subvariants between the photos
Nissan Patrol Pickup SGL 2015 (Grad M-21OF MLRS) [Yemen/Saudi Arabia]
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Toyota Land Cruiser HZJ75 (DIO HM-27 MLRS) [Iraq]
Toyota Land Cruiser HZJ79 (Grad M-21OF MLRS) [Free Syrian Army]
Toyota Land Cruiser HZJ79 (Grad M-21OF MLRS) [Syria]
Golan-300 [Syria]
Golan-400 [Syria]
MT-LB (4xUB-32-57) [Iraq]
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Stallion I MLRS [Jordan]
Stallion II MLRS [Jordan]
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2001 Dodge Ram 3500 4x4 (SLT 1-TON Dually 70mm MLRS) [Jordan]
Hafeet 620 (70mm MLRS) [Jordan]
NIMR 6X6 (107mm Multi Rocket Launcher System) [United Arab Emirates]
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ATS-59G (RL-21) [Egypt]
ZIL-131 (RC-21) [Egypt]
ZIL-131 (RL-21) [Egypt]
Ural-4320 (RL-21) [Egypt]
КамАZ-43118 (RL-21) [Egypt]
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Shams MRL [Syria]
RZSO MRL [Syria]
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T-55/122 MLRS [Iraq]
or T-55 [IQ MBRL]
Ababil-50 MRLS [Iraq]
Sajil-60 MRLS [Iraq]
Ababil-100 [Iraq]
Golan-1000 [Syria]
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MAN HX81 (Jobaria JDS MCRL 240 x 122mm Multipe Cradle Rocket Launcher System) [United Arab Emirates]
Or Dominator M2/12
MAN HX81 (Jobaria JDS MCRL 300mm Multipe Cradle Rocket Launcher System) [United Arab Emirates]
MAN HX81 (Jobaria JDS MCRL 262mm Multipe Cradle Rocket Launcher System) [United Arab Emirates]
MAN HX81 (Jobaria JDS MCRL 80 x 122mm Multipe Cradle Rocket Launcher System) [United Arab Emirates]
MZKT-74135 (Jobaria JDS MCRL 240 x 122mm Multipe Cradle Rocket Launcher System) [United Arab Emirates]
MZKT-74135 (Jobaria JDS MCRL 262mm Multipe Cradle Rocket Launcher System) [United Arab Emirates]
Jobaria JDS MCRL AB-19 107mm Multipe Cradle Rocket Launcher System [United Arab Emirates]
Jobaria JDS MCRL 80 x 122mm Multipe Cradle Rocket Launcher System [United Arab Emirates]
Jobaria JDS MCRL 240 x 122mm Multipe Cradle Rocket Launcher System [United Arab Emirates]
Jobaria JDS MCRL 262mm Multipe Cradle Rocket Launcher System [United Arab Emirates]
cant find a photo
Jobaria JDS MCRL 300mm Multipe Cradle Rocket Launcher System [United Arab Emirates]
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Light Tank Mark VIB (2pdr) [Iraq]
Marmon-Herrington Mk. IV (37mm Puteaux SA18) [Jordan]
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Ford F15 Ordnance (QF 17-pounder) Portée Prototype [Jordan]
RG-31 MMS / AGRAB [United Arab Emirates]
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Ural-4320-D-30 122mm [Free Syrian Army]
Navistar’s International 7000-MV Series (AK-176) [Iraq]
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BMP-1 (23-mm 2а14) [Iraq]
BMP-1 Mahmia 2nd Generation (ZU-23-2) [Syria]
Ural M67 (SPG-9) [Iraq]
BTR-50PK (106-mm M40A1) [Iraq]
Al Fahd AF-40-80-2 (105mm low-recoil cannon) [Saudi Arabia]
ABU FATMA 2C1-SH 122mm Self-Propelled Howitzer [Sudan]
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M106 -AML-90 Turret [Libya]
Cougar 4x4 (MRAP)-AML-90 Turret [Djibouti]
HMMWV M1114 UAH-BTR-94 Turret [Iraq]
EE-9 Cascavel (Type 63 MLRS) [Iraq]
EE-9 Cascavel W/106-mm M40A1 [Iraq]
M15A1 Modifed (106-mm M40A1) [Jordan]
BMP-1 W/37 mm M1939 (61-K) [Syria]
BMP-1 Mahmia 1st Generation W/ZU-23-2 [Syria]
Al-Masmak Nyoka Mk 2 (40mm Automatic Grenade Launcher W/7,62-mm six-barrel Dillon Aero M134D Minigun) [Saudi Arabia]
AB2 AL-JAWAD 106mm M40A1 Recoilless Rifle [Jordan]
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M113A1 (MILAN) [Lebanon]
LAV-FSV [Saudi Arabia]
AJBAN 440A W/Shershen/Skif Missile Launcher [Turkmen]
BMP Hybrid [Iraq]
Scorpion 30 mm KADDB [Jordan]
T-55A ‘319’ [Syria]
AB9B1 M60A1 [Jordan]
Type-72Z [Iraq]
Or Type-59 (2A46 125mm)
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T-62E Mark II (Sakr MLRS) [Egypt]
Or RO-115 Mark II (Sakr MLRS)
T-62E Mark II (Ahram Launcher) [Egypt]
Or RO-115 Mark II (Ahram Launcher)
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Rooikat-PREDATOR [Jordan/South Africa]
Lion of Babylon (Asad Babil) DGA [Iraq]
T-72M1 ‘329’ [Syria]
T-72M1 (TURMS-T) [Syria]
T-72M1 (Sarab-1) [Syria]
T-72AV (Sarab-1) [Syria]
T-72S “Sniper” [Syria] (Its the in game TURMS-T)
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Placeholder for now but I want to find something like the Leo 2 PL or T 80 U
T-72AV (Sarab-2) [Syria]
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There you go! This already looks less like a do everything to get an Arab tree for the need of it operation.
What you’re offering is a little better, although there are still a lot of weird, tinkered machines, and the technical underpinnings of most of the main vehicles, mainly the MBTs, aren’t at all indigenous to the group’s countries, which, in my opinion, detracts from the overall appeal. And it’s not just the MBTs here; there are also a significant number of show/demonstration machines in the more modern models.
Despite everything, as I said earlier and it’s a bit repetitive, some would still deserve to be added to the game because of their authenticity, some foreign designs are also locally modified enough to deserve their addition, I would like to see them, especially with some of those proposed, but it’s only a very small part unfortunately, and I’m afraid that having to add all these foreign vehicle especially those modified by their western or eastern manufacturer (so vehicles that logically intend to their country of birth in my humble opinion), can not justify the creation of a complete TT containing so few super original DCA and VCI, some correctly modified machines locally like the Falcons, and all this pile of machines on foreign technical base modified and tinkered on site by 22 countries gathered to arrive at a quantity that would make the thing “acceptable” (which in itself is already a small mess I think). the ones that deserve to be added have more their place in two or three more country centered sub-trees + or event / squadron in my humble opinion.
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Like I said there are a lot of more to be found. We probably can flush out the tree more. Also we don’t need everything I listed you can shrink the tt I made by 60% and only add the good stuff. For the show room stuff, most of these are actually in service. For the tinkered machines this is the best we can do for now unless we find better replacements later on. If you think about it the tt could end up like the Italian tt. In my humble opinion why can’t the Arabs get a tt but Israel can? Yes I understand 22 nations is a small mess but I’d like to have something new (if added correctly of course).
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I say yes if you add Toyota pickup with recoiless rifle +1
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Please, consider this Lebanese T-34T/ZPU-1 as part of the tree: Lebanese T-34T/ZPU-1 – A Fascinating Technical
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This treads a thin line of cool and ugly, I want it
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