The american win rate is in the 30s and they decide to add the the rafale and euro fighter with CAS :D lovely

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isnt the problem that it should be volumetric, specifically?

what is this?

should cover fuel tanks near driver all around and be 25mm thick iirc

so essentially fuel tank spall liners?

eh sorta? its RHA so idk if itll do much against spall but might catch a earlier or stock dart or 2 occasionaly

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missing armor

This is not modeled at all

peep this thread if you’re interested

Armor around the turret ring is 50mm thick IRL it’s like 200mm lol

Lower mantlet under the turret isn’t volumetric armor so it’s 25.4mm basically anything that hits the UFP ricochets into there

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25mm of rha is more than enough to catch shrapnel to my knowledge, in game the T-72/80/90’s thin ass RHA plate surrounding the autoloader was/is? a reason for a long time that these tanks wouldnt take damage with weird side shots

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The problem though, Yes, maybe SEPv3 would stand a better chance vs 122 and 2A7.

But how does a CR2, Merkava, Ariete, LeClerc, T-90, VT4A1 or Type 10 hold up against an SEPv3, 122 or 2A7?

Either the aforementioned tanks shouldnt see the meta tanks except in full uptiers, or they need to be fixed and brough on par to the others. At the moment Id argue most arent even really on par with teh Abrams at the moment, even though they should be fairly close.

And again, isnt there a turret ring bug report for the Abrams that needs to be fixed which might be all that is needed to bring US MBTs more in-line with the Leopards

a lot of times darts will just go straight through the hull armor. two layers of 25mm could fully make it spall and then catch said spall

thats true, but leo still outperf in armor overall. think theres bug reports about turret and hull armor but to my knowledge theres no hard numbers


Sums up Top Tier Russia tbh, tanks are mid (except BVM) but the teams pull through
2202 SP first top tier match of the day, and i’m pretty shit at the game

Honestly anything with A2 rounds would be more than a match for either if the Abram’s armor was fixed. I think the Sepv3 should not be released until tanks of similar modernization are ready to go

Yep, im the same for the Full challenger 3. At the moment, its just not needed. but major bug fixes like adding half of the misisng Mantlet, adding a ready rack and actually making the ERA do something on the heavy CR2s, would help more than MBT addition

like what? what do you also think sepv3 does that excludes it currently?

A4 rounds alone would penetrate everything, anywhere in game

and whats stopping them from leaving it at a3 or a2?

chally 3 TD is from 2019, we are well past the whole date of introduction thing now

I don’t really think it’s gonna sell that well, to be honest. And besides it’s just… a worse HSTV-L, which is already a pretty high skill tank.

so itll slam US WR even more? as it requires the one thing a lot of the people who buy these things lack?

these are not a feature of the sepv3 though? they are added whenever gaijin feels like it

should i buy it, i think it’s kinda cute