The AIM-9 Sidewinder - History, Design, Performance & Discussion

I don’t think it did sparrows, even if it did the F-5 radar can’t guide them. I’d say its more on par with an early F-16

Ah wait thats not the F-20, critically dumb, sorry.

It’s all good lol, at least you admitted a mistake. Some people don’t do that.

Anyway a while back I remember reading that there was some F-5s in USAF/USN service that got upgraded with an AN/APQ-63 radar… or something. That can guide sparrows so assuming the hardpoints were wired correctly there’s a Sparrow capable regular F-5.
But, regarding the picture I sent, I was thinking of it like a new F-5 to attempt to bridge the gap between the F-5E and the F-16A; probably with AIM-9P-4 and AIM-9L or something, with two extra that’s a pretty formidable opponent even if the airframe is 20 years outdated

Tbh the current F-5E is just painful, would rather it be brought up to this standard rather than further bloating the line.

If anything it would just be a foldered vehicle which to me is just more unneeded grind.

It sounds like something the US would have done, perhaps as a precursor to the F-20

I personally like foldered vehicles because its more of an “if you want it you can get it” and not a required thing. Like if the A-7s were foldered and before the A-10; you could get both or you could just skip straight to the A-10
Also, changing the specs of a plane to be better is like feature creep at its worst and I am not a big fan of that at all. Imagine if they suddenly gave the F-4C the AIM-9Js we know it had. Same idea. So, one early F-5E (in game) and one later F-5E with AGM-65D, 9L, 9P-4, two extra IR hardpoints, etc., but the second one is completely optional. Could be cool

See that’s what you’d think, right? But I’m 90% sure this upgrade package was made in the 2000s.

Wasn’t the F-20 a bit of a flop/canceled? . Maybe they were exploring an export upgrade package for the F-5 as many nations used (and still use right?) the F-5 that upgraded its radar and hardpoints.

Oh I agree with you, yet at the same time I’d prefer if the foldered vehicles are simply unlocked from the getgo. I’ve grown tired of spending time spading and unlocking vehicles after all this time.

Yes, I know there was some upgrade packages for it that updated the radar and stuff but the issue with those is that (off the top of my head) they add AMRAAM capability… which is not exactly fitting of where I envision it to be lol

So real actually I just like imagining they might future plan for decompression that may or may not happen

Sadly, Tiger Century aircraft hasn’t actually done anything. Majority of this stuff is conceptual, with really nothing to show for it

No modifications like this for the F-5E IRL actually exist, unfortunately.

The few that have something similar only have wiring/compatibility with Python III and IV underwing, but no Sidewinders afaik

Dang it Tiger Century

Plus honestly it’s not like they’d apply this upgrade to USAF/USN F-5s because they’re all being phased out

I remember the AIM-9L being much more flare resistant in the past (you had to cut afterburner and flare) and then at some point it was nerfed so it became flare hungry, no cutting of AB necessary for most aircraft.

Is there a historical basis for this, or just gameplay?

The USN’s F-5Ns are being upgraded to similar standards as Tactical Air Support’s F-5ATs, same with the Marine Corps’. They just don’t need those additional Sidewinders underwing, since radar/IRST is more of the threat that needs to be replicated

Just gameplay, IIRC all US missiles that have solid state electronics should be extremely hard, if not impossible, to flare off if you stay on the afterburner from rear aspect.

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and now gajin is laughing in our faces saying rb74m is 9m

It should be smoky and german 9L/i

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All later production AIM-9L utilized reduced smoke motors IRL

Were they ever exported in that config?

Sweden is an additional producer of the Mk36 motors and the AMRAAM motors and since the propellant sections are interchangeable (Mk36 mods, not Mk36 and AMRAAM) during maintenance they simply stopped producing the high smoke motors after some time.

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No, the reduced smoke motor was not used in either the AIM-9L/I or AIM-9L/I-1.

They used Mk.36 Mod 8 and Mod 10 motors. Current implementation is incorrect.

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The AIM-9M Sidewinder missile can be fitted with the following rocket motors: Mk 36 Mod 7, 8, 9, 10 and 11; Mod 9 and 11 motors are filled with a reduced smoke propellant (X-61).

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