did it happen?
no
Did you make a bug report?
even if it did, we dont even get the mk60 motor ingame. only mk47, which is such bullcrap as everybody can obviously see the mk60 would be better for the game as it is. and hell im pretty sure most people run the mk60 in dcs
The MK47 and MK60 were equivalents, their use-cases are not going to benefit the game one way or another. The AIM-54C’s motor is neither and should have reduced smoke.
definetly not though? ingame the mk60 would be plain better
Real life isn’t DCS, the MK60 and MK47 are very similar motors and offer little to no discernible advantages in real life other than having two companies compete to lower risk of cost increases.
From everything ive read, the mk60 has more thrust but less burn time and the mk 47 has opposite. The more thrust for shorter time might be better for close to medium range engagements perhaps; it might get up to speed quicker. This would be helpful as the phoenix is definitely one of the most sluggish missiles in the game off the rails, so that extra immediate boost might help in more scenarios than that of a longer burn time.
In DCS they actually just reworked them to be the exact same
I think you mean in the far past.
The most recent patch on the matter did make the motors have a bit of difference.
It is, of course, not like the original 54 motors which were very different.
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The DCS data is not up to date, the changes made were primarily for gameplay and consistency at the moment and when more information is made available I am sure they will update it once again.
The MK47 and MK60 are very similar though, and the performance difference is negligible. That is beside the fact that the MK60 was produced in very very small quantities and since the Phoenix was never fired in anger by the U.S., it is unlikely any equipped with the MK60 ever saw service. It was an alternate production facility for motors just like they have multiple sources for AIM-120 motors.
Their information for the MK47 Mod 1 is most flawed, as well.
what are you basing this on though?
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"The AWG-9 can track 24 targets and attack six individual targets simultaneously with Phoenix missiles, while continuing to scan the airspace.
With low induced drag, tail controls and a long-burning, solid-rocket motor, the Phoenix can be launched successfully at long range against small, highly maneuverable targets as well as at larger, high-speed threats. Its warhead is detonated either on impact or by a proximity fuze.
The missile is effective against high-performance fighter aircraft at either high or low altitudes, cruise missiles and supersonic bombers, all in the presence of sophisticated countermeasures.
Phoenix-armed F-14s provide a secure escort for attack aircraft to the enemy targets by destroying even massive numbers of enemy defending aircraft far from the attack aircraft. In the event of a close-range dogfight, Phoenix will have evened the odds before the dogfight begins, thus permitting the most effective use of the short range Sidewinder missiles and internal 20 mm Vulcan gun. Automatic AWG-9 dogfight target acquisition modes enable the pilot to concentrate on maneuvering the F-14 and yet be assured of the maximum number of lethal weapon firing opportunities."
Directly from the people who made the missile.
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I would guess that with the dev server opening up for the F-14D, this is the last practical chance to get the devs to look at and fix the underperformance of the aim-54 phoenix missile before it becomes old news. The bug reports are already filed in and numerous, so i can only wish good luck to everyone involved…
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I don’t know , i just can’t trust Gj anymore.
We’ve seen it time and time again.
On the other hand, they do me a big favor with their attitude. Tossing the game to the garbage has become easy.
From the game modes , to “realis” to bias , to just follow the NUMBERS from a fkn document … theya re a disappointment. The only thing they have is modelling many vehicles nicely . And not exactly accurately all of the time…
The bad thing is they got monopoly in the genre.
If anyone else had so much info from their playerbase in all levels, from technical to RL data to in game data, they’d do something with it.
Gj do what they do INTENTIONALLY. They do have the data. They don’t WANT to fix things.
So yes, i’d better buy Ace Combat 8 for less money even , than play the baptismed “realism” of GJ. At least AC has identity…
GJ claims realism while they deny real data and fixing things accordingly.
This what all i get to fixing Pheonix C and give F-14D C+ model.