The AIM-54 Phoenix missile - Technology, History and Performance

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With the massive warhead, improved MPRF seeker and 25G turn, the Aim-54C’s effective range goes from 40km- 200km, all they way down to 16km with the Mk.47 and 9km with the Mk.60. It will technically be able to be outpulled, but considering the massive speed difference and 30m splashzone, that will never happen. It will also become one of the best rear aspect radar missiles in the game, having the tightest notch gate in the game and an insane burn time.

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with a cw seekerhead? press x to doubt. sure it can have tighter notches gates in theory only due to it having a utterly massive diameter, but in practice it will always be limited due to not having a pd radar like its later contemporaries and only cw seekerhead

It’s seeker would be almost identical to the AMRAAM’s seeker. Ingame, I believe it says CW, but the seeker itself is PD.

They’re definitely cw, even the missile spreadsheet says they’re cw

Wait are you talking about irl? Isn’t that only with the 54c+?

54C/Sealed you mean : but that’s ECCM add-ons no?

WGU-11/B from normal 54C is numerical instead of previous analog systems for 54A/B

but the only one website i found speaking of pulse doppler AN/DSQ-26 (radar on-board AIM-54) is nothing trust-worthy.

so @ItzMikeyzWRLD-psn : please provide actual declassified information that leads you to say that AN/DSQ-26 is a Pulse doppler radar

I can’t tell if it’s aim 54c+, aim54eccm/sealed or aim54d. They all seem to exist depending on source, can’t tell which is which

to me there is only:
Aim-54A
Aim-54B
Aim-54C
Aim-54C/Sealed

but the C+ is often used to shorten the “/sealed”

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Have a tight “notch gate” has nothing to do with the antenna’s diameter. Apples to oranges.
Nor its only something that can only be done with pulsed waveforms, this falls under the signals processing part.
Look up the skyflash’s speed gate, ±3kts. CW from a phantom.
You can track target throught the beam with range if the clutter is not in the same bin(s) as the clutter to be short

Also,
If he says the waveform is MPRF, its not a CW…

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Cw is Hprf yes. I was getting confused whether or not he was talking about irl or in game, because in game it is cw. Irl idk

6 knots? In game or irl? Because in game it’s much much large than that. I sincerely doubt it is that small. For example, aim 7s have ±150 knots speed gate irl if I remember right

Cw and HPRF are two different things. One is a continuous waveform and the other is a pulsed one with a high prf(typically with a high duty ratios)

To my knowledge the A is CW( deduced on a phoenix doc a while back) and C transmits H/M Prf.

Irl.
You are confusing the acquisition velocity gate and tracking gate.

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Sadly treated as largely identical in game though.

Okay that makes sense, I was wondering how on earth anything would hit if the speed difference needs to be that big

speed buff for the aim54c to mach 5

Gaijin already knows about the 25G capability and refuses to model it, so dont hold your breath on that. Thats something thats been discussed at length ever since the AIM-54 was added.

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Does anyone know if this is even a real quote David found? I’ve been looking through this hearing on and off pretty much all day and I couldn’t find anything close to this. Anyone who experienced the old forums who has this quote saved or knows it’s origin?

I’m trying to get more than just 2 sources that state the Aim-54C’s seeker has all aspect capability for a bug report.

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The Aim-54C+ and ECCM/Sealed had seeker improvements on top of the base C model seeker(WGU-11/AB). Something to take note of is that the AMRAAM A’s guidance part is named the WGU-16/B, while this new seeker for the Aim-54C+ ECCM is the WGU-17/B.

I do believe that this seeker is MPRF and at a minimum an equivalent of the AMRAAM A’s seeker.

As I said before, I’m also working on gathering up all my sources for a bug report to bring the base Aim-54C up to par with every other missile in the game by giving it an MPRF all aspect seeker and RAID target discrimination, which is just another way to say the missile tracks individual, small, and/or clustered targets much better. If that get’s passed and implemented, it’ll make the Aim-54 much better at least for non-afk BVR fights.

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but that MPRF is not for the base 54c which is what we have in game. That’s for the later upgraded variant no?

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From the sources I’ve gathered, MPRF All aspect capability was implemented with the base C in 1980.
This source, https://www.navair.navy.mil/node/12701#:~:text=1977 Development%20of,54C%20flight%20tests. (1980)
This source,

1983
and this source,
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1980

They are all detail the base C, instead of the ECCM/Sealed or C+ (which I found out are base Aim-54C’s retrofitted into ECCM/Sealed variants). The ECCM variant started development later that decade in 1986.

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