OH BTW @MiG_23M
Continuously switching through each target is not how the radar is supposed to opperate. The missile should be able to recieve dada from the radar as long as the radar is pointed at the target. The radar is supposed to be able to select 6 targets and have the ability to tws track them alk the way untill the missile turns on its own radar. So fundamentally this mechanic is wrong and should be changed.
What would the point be in TWS if the RIO had to Select each target every 30 seconds or so to Update the missile’s path? Doesnt fundamentally make sense.
That would necessitate one, but he’s just saying that’s an effective way of using it in-game despite the drawbacks.
It’s been modified to fit the same nose cone, doesn’t make it remotely similar radar elsewise. Shares 85% commonality with the F-15E’s iirc.
Ohhh ok i see what hes saying yeah makes sense.
Okay, so I’m wrong then until further information comes out. Thanks
Thats an apg 70(f15), not 71.
If fired under optimal conditions, they should be reaching targets at Mach 3-4, thats more than enough energy to pull more than a single “good” pull…
Atm their rather trash though. R-27ER will outspeed them at any range the R-27ER can actually reach (which is… questionable), the AIM-54C pulls less than it should, its seeker is worse than it should be as well, its missing smokeless motor, and its probably the worst affected missile by the current proxy fuse issues.
I’m also fairly certain the R-27ER has a better seeker, granted I’m not 100% clear on some of these lines of code:
But what I do know is the 54C will miss a target with a slight offset from purely head on relatively often (even while fully supported all the way to the target), and the R-27ER is almost guaranteed to track you through any and all maneuvers beyond heavy chaffing + notching + ground clutter.
I should have a couple clips of the 54C’s atrocious performance with tracking anything that isn’t purely head on when i get back home, but in the meantime, enjoy this clip of a direct hit vs a MiG-29 leaving it still airworthy (this happened more than once)
https://streamable.com/r0qvha
Whats the reason all this technical stuff on the F-14A and B still classified? Is it because of of Iran?
Its cuz it was a really advanced jet and some of the stuff it used or pioneered are likely still in use today.
Also likely because they are trying to prevent any and all info going to Iran that could help them with the F-14A’s, seeing as, though Iran CLAIMS a LOT of things about their F-14A’s, we only have evidence of them actually using old US missiles from when they were sold (AIM-9P’s, AIM-7E-2’s, Hawk, AIM-54A)
AWG-9 and APG-71 share components. APG-71 is basically the unholy offspring of the F-15E’s APG-70 (an absolutely tremendous radar by all accounts) and the AWG-9.
Afaik, the APG-71 is basically a more long range and air to air focused version of the APG-70. the 70 and 71 share something like more than 75% of major components.
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Don’t get me wrong, I don’t consider the Pheonix a faultless missile. It’s my perception that some accuracy issues are due to some not correcting the guidance midflight. I can only share my observation on what has been effective to increase the chances of a kill. This by no means is trying to undermine the issues it currently has.
Yeah, there are def ways to improve pK% with it, granted as I mentioned, this major update has basically killed it. I went from a roughly 50-75% hitrate with the missile all the way down to probs a sub 10% hit rate, and im not the only player that has mentioned this observation. I suspect, as previously mentioned) that its largely due to the fusing issue affecting the AIM-54 more than any other missiles in-game.
This clip is from a year ago
Without the ability to pre-designate targets for each missile as you would in real life, in War Thunder you can only update the datalink track for the last missile fired. So in that video if I had ‘soft-locked’ another target to ‘update the guidance’ it would just confuse the second/last missile fired to which target it is meant to be tracking.
That has not been my experience, I have been able to independently guide Pheonixes to the intended targets and can verify what they are doing based on their smoke trails. I can make a video to back up my claims if required, but I have obeserved that the missile will stay on its selected target when fired in salvos as long as the target is highlighted “soft-locked” again at some point. I will double check as well to make sure when I return home.
At least in DCS, the VDI on the F-14 shows you which targets have been selected in TWS by having them flash. So whever gaijin decides to rework TWS functionality i hope they add some sort of way to know if that target is selected in TWS and can be fired upon.
You have remember that the Phoenixes can self guide themself with inertial navigation, so as long as the target doesn’t change course too much when it gets within 10-15 miles it will start tracking itself via the onboard radar. If you have video evidence of the contrary I would like to see it.
https://youtu.be/wsSpRzSA4fM?si=JYidMCSoc_NfJJTu this is for refrence. From what ive seen the general functions of the AWG-9 in DCS are pretty accurate.
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