The entire argument that the AIM-54 should pull as much as an AIM-4 or AIM-47 is pointless. Two different designs and missiles.
The argument should be made that the AIM-54 DOES indeed pull 25G, as stated by multiple sources. Gaijin has intentionally left the ordnance in a nerfed state and there is nothing to be done about it. If you want 25G AIM-54’s, there are other options available.
Mhm , but the Fakour can pull 25 and the AIM-54 can’t?
I mean the Fakour is also an entirely separate missile from the Aim-54, it appears to be based on the MIM-23.
Honestly this is just wrong ingame, it should have a slightly lower G-load then the Aim-54 if anything given it weighs a bit more lol. It uses the same control surfaces as the phoenix after all, not the Hawk. The Aim-54 should be ~24.7Gs max with dual plane, while the Fakour should be something mildly lower, around 22-23Gs iirc.
Yeah it’s pretty much just a hawk with Aim-54 control surfaces that is supposedly ARH (cough cough it likely ain’t).
why not 25.0
That’s just what I was told by someone knowledgeable on the subject, and if it’s true it just means most statements of 25Gs are just rounded up for simplicity.
It’s really not. Gaijin may think so, but it’s very obvious it’s an Aim-54 with a Hawk motor and not the other way around. We have the Hawk missile already and they look nothing alike.
Exactly.
Example:
Not even the same control surfaces or seekerhead.
They have near identical control schemes, fin layout, size, and weight, but with only minor differences. It is clear the MIM-23 as a SAM is more likely optimized for low altitude use and the AIM-54 was originally intended for use against high and fast targets.
Whilst the AIM-54 was modified and could subsequently be used with great success against a low alt and low RCS target such as a cruise missile, those targets are not particularly evasive.
That being said, we know for a fact that the AIM-54 can do 25G’s in certain scenarios. Who is to say the missile designed for low altitude and evasive targets shouldn’t pull just as much provided the structural limitation of its’ cheaply made fins are no longer an obstacle?
By any chance do you know if the f14D might be added next update or is in the works?
Dude even if he did know (he doesn’t hes just a suggestions mod) he wouldn’t be allowed to tell you
Never hurts to ask
Huh I thought the f14 didn’t carry 4 missile in the middle and only 3 🤔🧐😐
Can the aim 54 switch between semi active and active radar homing modes while in flight? I don’t mean datalink when I’m talking about semi active mode. Irl
not really, but it kind of does one until the other. or should remain in SARH only for the most part
Do you know if the 120 does? Just found info that the r-77-1 seeker might be able to do that and was wondering if other fox 3s can too.
The AAM-4 can, somewhat. I don’t know if it’s a full SARH mode, but it can compare doppler signatures from the host plane bouncing off the target to be better at detecting targets against clutter.
Yes. The Aim-54s start off in SARH until they go pitbull. In real life, the A model needed to reach pitbull range to exit SARH mode and enter ARH mode. The Aim-54B and C did not have this issue and went into ARH mode on their own.
If you’re asking if they could switch back and forth inflight, not really unless the missile loses lock on the original target and the next target on the F-14s radar is hard locked and outside of the pitbull range. But even that probably isn’t possible.
Improved motor for the C
dogfight capabilities
Mach 5 for the AIM-54C instead of Mach 4.3
100 NM = 185 Km instead of 150 km
https://weaponsystems.net/system/219-AIM-54+Phoenix
AIM-54C top speed : Mach 5
https://www.forecastinternational.com/archive/disp_old_pdf.cfm?ARC_ID=1066
Speeds of up to Mach 5 again
107 NM or 200 km range
https://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-54.html
Mach 4.3 and Mach 5 speeds
