The AIM-26 ( Not AIM-4 ) we have on the Swiss Mirage III pulls harder for two reasons:
→ Its a lot lighter.
→ Its a lot slower.
- I’m aware.
- Yet they pull the same G… I don’t see the point.
The thing is, it doesn’t pull harder… Ingame it does, but IRL they both pull 25G.
The point of my comment was the lack of 25G on the Aim-54 is arbitrary. Not that the Aim-4/26 couldn’t.
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I mean, I’m assuming the aim-4 falcon/aim-26 can pull those 25 gs single plane, while the 54 pulls it dual plane.
I can assure you AIM 26B pulled 28Gs in single plane irl
I can also assure you it went Mach 3.5
Ye as above lol
Each falcon differs completely with some pulling up to only 20 and some pulling over 40 in a single plane
So saying generally “based on the Aim 4” is like saying based on the aim 9 and not specifying which although the sidewinder does have more modern technology variants and is a wider variety when in subvariants
If you need falcon info then it is my featured topic on here
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The AIM-54 is much larger than any Falcon, they don’t share body or fins AT ALL.
AIM-26 was ~2.1m long, the AIM-54 ~4m. It’s twice as long, with much wider body diameter.
That “based on” is doing a LOT of work here lol
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woah, since when were you a suggestion mod?
its aim-4 → aim-26 → aim-47 → aim-54
so AIM-4 is great-grandfather missile of AIM-54
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I got accepted in the last group like a month ago, was just delayed from getting everything setup with the others cause some stuff took a bit.
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Yes, but to use that “based on” to imply they share a missile body, fins, control surfaces is ridiculous.
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i know, i agree lol
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The entire argument that the AIM-54 should pull as much as an AIM-4 or AIM-47 is pointless. Two different designs and missiles.
The argument should be made that the AIM-54 DOES indeed pull 25G, as stated by multiple sources. Gaijin has intentionally left the ordnance in a nerfed state and there is nothing to be done about it. If you want 25G AIM-54’s, there are other options available.
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Mhm , but the Fakour can pull 25 and the AIM-54 can’t?
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I mean the Fakour is also an entirely separate missile from the Aim-54, it appears to be based on the MIM-23.
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Honestly this is just wrong ingame, it should have a slightly lower G-load then the Aim-54 if anything given it weighs a bit more lol. It uses the same control surfaces as the phoenix after all, not the Hawk. The Aim-54 should be ~24.7Gs max with dual plane, while the Fakour should be something mildly lower, around 22-23Gs iirc.
Yeah it’s pretty much just a hawk with Aim-54 control surfaces that is supposedly ARH (cough cough it likely ain’t).
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why not 25.0
That’s just what I was told by someone knowledgeable on the subject, and if it’s true it just means most statements of 25Gs are just rounded up for simplicity.
It’s really not. Gaijin may think so, but it’s very obvious it’s an Aim-54 with a Hawk motor and not the other way around. We have the Hawk missile already and they look nothing alike.
Exactly.
Example:
Not even the same control surfaces or seekerhead.
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They have near identical control schemes, fin layout, size, and weight, but with only minor differences. It is clear the MIM-23 as a SAM is more likely optimized for low altitude use and the AIM-54 was originally intended for use against high and fast targets.
Whilst the AIM-54 was modified and could subsequently be used with great success against a low alt and low RCS target such as a cruise missile, those targets are not particularly evasive.
That being said, we know for a fact that the AIM-54 can do 25G’s in certain scenarios. Who is to say the missile designed for low altitude and evasive targets shouldn’t pull just as much provided the structural limitation of its’ cheaply made fins are no longer an obstacle?
By any chance do you know if the f14D might be added next update or is in the works?
Dude even if he did know (he doesn’t hes just a suggestions mod) he wouldn’t be allowed to tell you