The AIM-4/26 Falcon - History, Design, Performance & Discussion

AIM-4 missiles also went to Japan. The Japanese used AIM-4D and created the XAAM-2 missile based on it.

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I left them out of users because I have found only one source (AAM 2 wikipedia) stating japan even had possession of the missiles and its unclear if they serviced the AIM-4D after the AAM2 experiment

grafik
grafik

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Yeah it’s wizard and should be added to the game

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No F-102 posts? Lucky for you I happen to have made one! The Deuce - Convair’s F-102A Delta Dagger

The AIM-4 and AIM-26 are missiles we need in the game, and their inclusion will open War Thunder up to many more vehicles!

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Added it Ty

A more in-depth (and realistic) flight performance breakdown
All data from SMC (standard missile characteristics) and using ideal rocket equation for delta V. Rounded to nearest .1 mach, 1g, and 1m/s.

AIM-4A

sea level

Max speed, M0.8 launch: M2.2
Max g: 15g
Max speed, M1.2 launch : M2.5
Max g: 17g

10kft (3km)

Max speed, M0.8 launch: M2.3
Max g: 15g
Max speed, M1.2 launch: M2.6
Max g: 17g

20kft (6km)

Max speed, M0.8 launch: M2.5
Max g: 15g
Max speed, M1.2 launch: M2.8
Max g: 16g

30kft (9km)

Max speed, M0.8 launch: M2.7
Max g: 14g
Max speed, M1.2 launch: M3.0
Max g: 15g

SMC

https://web.archive.org/web/20171017215154/http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/AIM-4A_Falcon_SMC_-_September_1963.pdf

TLDR:
399m/s dV
17g
M2.7

AIM-4B

sea level

Max speed, M0.8 launch: M2.2
Max g: 15g
Max speed, M1.2 launch : M2.5
Max g: 17g

10kft (3km)

Max speed, M0.8 launch: M2.3
Max g: 15g
Max speed, M1.2 launch: M2.6
Max g: 17g

20kft (6km)

Max speed, M0.8 launch: M2.5
Max g: 15g
Max speed, M1.2 launch: M2.8
Max g: 17g

30kft (9km)

Max speed, M0.8 launch: M2.7
Max g: 14g
Max speed, M1.2 launch: M3.0
Max g: 15g

SMC

https://web.archive.org/web/20180820155210/http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/GAR-2_Falcon_SAC_-_1_May_1959.pdf

TLDR:
420m/s dV
17g
M2.7

AIM-4C

sea level

Max speed, M0.8 launch: M2.1
Max g: 15g
Max speed, M1.2 launch: M2.4
Max g: 17g

10kft (3km)

Max speed, M0.8 launch: M2.3
Max g: 15g
Max speed, M1.2 launch: M2.6
Max g: 17g

20kft (6km)

Max speed, M0.8 launch: M2.5
Max g: 15g
Max speed, M1.2 launch: M2.8
Max g: 16g

30kft (9km)

Max speed, M0.8 launch: M2.6
Max g: 14g
Max speed, M1.2 launch: M2.9
Max g: 15g

SMC

https://web.archive.org/web/20171017125437/http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/AIM-4C_Falcon_SMC_-_September_1963.pdf

TLDR:
392m/s dV
17g
M2.6

AIM-4D

sea level

Max speed, M0.8 launch: M2.2
Max g: 15g

10kft (3km)

Max speed, M0.98 launch: M2.4
Max g: 16g

20kft (6km)

Max speed, M1.04 launch: M2.6
Max g: 16g

30kft (9km)

Max speed, M1.14 launch: M2.8
Max g: 16g

SMC

https://web.archive.org/web/20171017233043/http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/AIM-4D_Falcon_SMC_-_September_1963.pdf

TLDR:
371m/s dV
16g
M2.6

AIM-4E

sea level

Max speed, M0.8 launch: M1.4
Max g: 13g
Max speed, F-106 maximum level speed (M1.0) launch: M1.7
Max g: 18g

10kft (3km)

Max speed, M0.8 launch: M1.6
Max g: 13g
Max speed, F-106 maximum level speed (M1.4) launch: M2.1
Max g: 18g

20kft (6km)

Max speed, M0.8 launch: M1.8
Max g: 12g
Max speed, F-106 maximum level speed (M1.6) launch: M2.4
Max g: 17g

30kft (9km)

Max speed, M0.8 launch: M1.9
Max g: 10g
Max speed, F-106 maximum level speed (M2.0) launch: M2.9
Max g: 18g

SMC

https://web.archive.org/web/20171017182854/http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/AIM-4E_Falcon_SMC_-_September_1963.pdf

TLDR:
225m/s dV
17g
M1.5

AIM-4F

sea level

Max speed, M0.8 launch: M1.4
Max g: 13g
Max speed, F-106 maximum level speed (M1.1) launch: M1.6
Max g: 14g

10kft (3km)

Max speed, M0.8 launch: M1.5
Max g: 11g
Max speed, F-106 maximum level speed (M1.3) launch: M1.8
Max g: 15g

20kft (6km)

Max speed, M0.8 launch: M1.6
Max g: 10g
Max speed, F-106 maximum level speed (M1.6) launch: M2.2
Max g: 16g

30kft (9km)

Max speed, M0.8 launch: M1.8
Max g: 10g
Max speed, F-106 maximum level speed (M1.8) launch: M2.6
Max g: 18g

SMC

https://web.archive.org/web/20170620182953/http://alternatewars.com/SAC/AIM-4F_Falcon_SMC_-_September_1963.pdf

TLDR:
240m/s dV
15g
M1.8

AIM-4G

sea level

Max speed, M0.8 launch: M1.3
Max g: 12g
Max speed, F-106 maximum level speed (M1.1) launch: M1.6
Max g: 15g

10kft (3km)

Max speed, M0.8 launch: M1.5
Max g: 12g
Max speed, F-106 maximum level speed (M1.4) launch: M1.8
Max g: 15g

20kft (6km)

Max speed, M0.8 launch: M1.6
Max g: 10g
Max speed, F-106 maximum level speed (M1.6) launch: M2.2
Max g: 16g

30kft (9km)

Max speed, M0.8 launch: M1.8
Max g: 10g
Max speed, F-106 maximum level speed (M1.8) launch: M2.7
Max g: 18g

SMC

https://web.archive.org/web/20171017170051/http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/AIM-4G_Falcon_SMC_-_September_1963.pdf

TLDR:
251m/s dV
15g
M1.8

AIM-26B

sea level

Max g (M1.0): 10g
Max g (M1.5): 15g
Max g (M2.0): 18g

10kft (3km)

Max speed, M0.8 launch: M2.3
Max g: 18g
Max speed, M0.98 launch: M2.4
Max g: 19g

20kft (6km)

Max speed, M0.8 launch: M2.4
Max g: 15g
Max speed, M1.04 launch: M2.6
Max g: 16g

30kft (9km)

Max speed, M0.8 launch: M2.6
Max g: 12g
Max speed, M1.14 launch: M2.8
Max g: 13g

SMC

https://web.archive.org/web/20171017141409/http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/AIM-26B_Falcon_SMC_-_May_1964.pdf

TLDR:
577m/s dV
18g
M2.2

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As for what the graphs portray those are very accurate, however, the flight tests contradict the graphs and a lot of it is all estimates based on what they have

i have spoken to a sweede, the go to museum and data is accurate, however me saying this is not proof unfortunately

worse g pull about 20 maybe 25 but basically an RB28 in anything exept a better seeker

what is the source?, nvm i missed the smc bit

Standard Missile Characteristics published by USAF, file linked under each missile type

I spoke to them to and they said they cant verify any of it

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According to the Swedish Airforce the RB27 reached speeds to mach 3 in the instances shown here and “hit” the target in a matter of seconds

This also shows the firing limits of the RB 27, which is an Aim 26B, and it is not bad

Tp 84 is a C130 Hercules in Swedish service

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Zoo Wee Mama

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this would be peak for things like the F4C that have to use aim9Bs

We’re lucky that the AIM-4 on F-4C wouldn’t require you to do the ~15 to 20 step IRL switchology test every time.

Imagine if you had to do a CAPTCHA twice every time you wanted to use a Falcon from the Phantom, that’d be really accurate to how bad the Falcon was integrated into the Phantom.

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better than aim9b 16gs

id rather 9b at that point