AIM-120 absolute maximum speed in-game per the files is mach 5.08 (1500 m/s) at very high altitude. The top speed of the missile should therefore be achieved at a minimum speed of mach 2.1 at 12km altitude. The loft profile should bring it into thin air relatively quickly. A higher launch of 2.4 mach should bring the missile to a theoretical top speed IRL closer to 5.1 - 5.2 mach.
In the case of the R-27ER it is missing a top speed of 100 m/s from 5km+, I think in-game the AMRAAM is much closer already to its’ real world top speed in comparison and may even be overperforming in very low altitude scenarios (as is the R-27ER and other longer range AAM’s).
Any missile with a top speed above 5 mach at altitude would hit the limit, yes, hence my comment. The R-27ER is missing 100m/s from it’s top speed as early as 5km whereas the AIM-120B is only missing speed when launched beyond 2 mach and at very high altitudes.
Yep, i really hope they fix this limitation. A it would buff the R-27ER and pose more questions on which aircraft use it, for potential historical changes, and some missiles like ASRAAM will be heavily capped by such a limitation if it isnt removed.
All future ordnance that can be added to the game in regards to medium or long range AAM’s are hampered by this limitation. Any that are not are sparse exceptions, such as AIM-7P.
Pretty much, especially with the Russian hypersonic missiles which can really offer a unique capability to Russia, I would expect it to be fixed pretty soon.
That’s um, a bit better than some of these listed here…
I mean Aim-120D levels of range… but ya know, would be more than happy to have it added for Israel rn :)))
It’s not about how much heavier it is, it uses a dual pulse rocket motor. They drastically reduced the weight and size of the electronics to allow more room for motor / propellant. It’s essentially what is being done to the MICA to make the MICA-NG.
The old Derby is based on the Python 4 which still uses traveling wave tubes as opposed to solid state electronics. The I-DERBY ER switches to solid state and miniaturizes stuff.
It is believes the I-DERBY ER either comes with an IR proximity fuse or combined the proximity fuse into the radar seeker / dome. No images of the real missile show any sort of viewport for the proximity fuse sensors.
I mean technically the Aim120D will also come first because it was made in 2006 while Indian tested theirs in 2021.
But there ranges are not equal they have different things to match the Aim120D still not as good though
(Supposedly I-Derby ER, potentially regular Derby)
This article states 100-140km range, although it definitely isn’t a source itself, Rafael is.
They’ve stated that the Debry offers 80% of the capabilities of the Meteor, while costing significantly less to obtain (going for the F-20 style of marketing lmao). It wouldn’t be far fetched to assume this also refers to range among other things.
Wouldn’t be too fate fetched to believe. Likely will be quite some time before any kind of information about this is revealed in any capacity, given how modern the missile is.
I ain’t a know it all like some of yall lol, and there are plenty of things I don’t know anything about. These are just the things I’ve seen talked about and stated, it could be far from the truth for all I know.
Either way, the Indian Air Force choosing to use the I-Derby ER over the Meteor for aircraft such as the Rafale kinda says something doesn’t it, because although it may be the better option financially, they definitely still considered it capabilities.
