If I flew Milan and did nothing but destroy 4 bases in a match in an 8.7-9.7 match
My teammates will literally get slaughtered because I didn’t do dogfighting as the top dog of the team
But I might be in #3 on the scoreboard.
Yeah, If I spaceclimb with Lancaster or Tu-4, I usually can be the last one alive.
(Unless I got caught by Vautour IIN’s R.511 SARH while flying with Tu-4)
The Problem of ‘classical bombers’ which got led to the removal of airfield destruction in this update.
It usually can’t contribute better than strike aircrafts in the same BR.
Strategic bombers, which are fitted to destroy an airfield (with a heavy payload), are forced to take disadvantage of the base reward multiplier. because Gaijin punishes player who carries a payload which requires more than destroying 1 base (AFAIK, est 25k dmg)
Yes, Bomber can still do some futile-ish resistance in current circumstances.
G8N, Be-6 or Lincoln might be an example of that.
Still, it won’t change the fact that Gaijin just removed what bombers do best.
and made them as inferior strike aircrafts.
@Stockholm_Blend
I’ve space climbed in exactly one bomber, and that’s when there was an in-air rearming icon in air RB.
I’ve never space climbed since. Space climbing is less rewards per minute.
And no, Gaijin hasn’t removed bases. They made matches last longer which helps teams get more rewards.
Space climbing is only one of many applications of heavy bombers.
Problem is that 99% of players cant comprehend anything else other than spawn - then point nose at base and hold W until they die.
Many bombers can operate under the radar - such as Lancaster/Shackleton etc - obv not B29 or Lincoln though.
If I can drop 4 tons of bombs and survive - I am certainly contributing far more than 6 fighters who charged into headons and died within 3 minutes and left.
Anyhow - we have had 4 base respawns for YEARS now - It really angered me when they done it but I had to accept it - As long as they dont do the same to the old maps like Malta, Hokkaido, Britain, New Guinea etc etc - - If they do not change these old maps then what exactly does this new base mechanic pertain to?
I thank you for your contribution as a bomber player, and I understand how exceptional your skill is.
But at the same time, it can’t justify how the Bombers are generally overrated.
As a joke, I wonder why you support that guy who agrees with the full removal of the airfield for the greater good.
This type of backstabbing was quite unexpected.
Yes, the Traditional way of playing bombers.
Get gelded step by step and accept the cold fact that Gaijin don’t care about bombers.
Nah, they will do the same eventually. (maybe except those Pacific maps which never had bases and airfields at the beginning)
1- Gaijin removed airfield destruction in higher ranks long ago. So they want to make it consistent to lower BR. because it is easier to learn for newbies.
2- They want to do us nothing but easy prey for those Interceptors.
It matters because
Bombers are forced to limit in role for victory.
We BOTH know that Gaijin removed airfield destruction. The most straightforward option of the bomber makes the team win.
Yes, destroying bases to decreasing tickets works.
Just… It is not as effective as killing ground targets or shooting enemies down.
Maybe YOU can do more than a majority of players do
But meanwhile, the majority of fighters do more than the majority of bombers do.
Look at these fighter-jocks who wanted full removal of base, airfield, ground targets, ticket draining and make ARB as TDM PVP mode.
Because they genuinely believe we are freeloaders of the team, and don’t want us in ARB and breathe the same air as them.
Yes. This is just a silly argument.
Gaijin is cutting our limbs one by one, just like how Mr Clarke cuts the limbs of necromorph.
And you took side of that guy and backstabbed me.
If we don’t want our bombers to get removed because of worthlessness, we need a better way to contribute to winning.
And Gaijin terminated the option of airfield destruction in lower ranks, in this update.
To be fair destroying bases shouldnt take out many tickets.
The win condition for bombing its destroying the bases to then insta win at destroying the airfield (which has a lot of hp). Because destroying the 4 bases its so easy, making this a win condition its not fair (especially at top tier)
I really dont get it why. It already was present only in a mode you would get once in a blue moon and now itsw gone completely, stupid, stupid, STUPID GAIJIN! Bombers were already useless but very, very rarely you could win a game single handed by bombing the airfield… this is just sad!
The only possible redemption for gaijin for taking this ridiculous path is if they plan to add objectives that make strike aircraft and bombers actually matter
Why are there different amount of aircraft to kill for special tasks?
Options (for Air RB) special tasks:
Kill 26 fighters
Kill 8 bombers
So based on this it looks like killing a bomber is 3 times more difficult than killing a fighter. We all know that is not the case - just evidence of bombers being designated prey.
With a small adjustment (like: Kill 26 bombers or 8 Fighters) you would increase the survival chances of bombers without real effort 😎
Regarding the current (announced) changes:
From my pov there are no substantial changes at BRs above 2.7. I played (after a break) now on several 3 bases maps (Frontline maps and legacy maps like Poland) without noticing any changes, so it looks like gaijin either “forgot” these maps or just changed bases at lower BRs than 2.7.
The increase of contrail altitudes (on medium maps now around 9km) should increase the survival chances of experienced bomber pilots in bombers with good high alt performance. I ran today (by accident) multiple times in very high Pe-8s (at 7km+) and even in a PB5-M (at 6 km) which popped out of nowhere. Have in mind that the graphics whilst playing on xbox are far inferior compared to PC graphics.
The downsides of these contrail alt changes is (ofc) that it is basically impossible to track enemy fighters trying to pitch up. After watching several replays it became obvious that i got tracked and stalked multiple times without being aware of that (despite i scanned the airspace below and behind) - the majority of these fighters broke off as they ran out of fuel or were too lazy to climb.
That’s why i assess the current changes as a slight upside for experienced prop bomber pilots - the average players still try their low level runs with the usual outcome😉
