my man this is a thread about the r-73 on the mig-29 and the magic-2 is better than it in almost every way ontop of that there isnt the 27et at 12.7, also why would you compare a short range IR missile to an long range one?
surely it should appeal to you that the magic and 27et have different usecases
all you are trying is to downtalk the Magic 2 so that it seems as unjustified for the Mig-29 to get the r-73 at 12.7, while the r-27er is removed
R-27ER have been removed, due to historical reports - nothing can be asked to balanced that lost.
Also, the MiG-29A will soon be pretty dominant at 12.7
In such even the F-16A ADF likes are going 13.3, by addition of AIM-120A
so it would make the MiG-29 to have no real threats, aparts the F-16A blk10 (12.3, only 9L’s), and F-16AJ (which is an F-16A ADF that will not recieve AIM-120A, os have to use AIM-7F/9L and stays 12.7)
now speaking of M2K’s - they’re much more limited weaponary wise - with only 2 Magic-2’s (beaten at range, and still easily deafeatable, due to IRCCM being wrongly based on R-73), and 2x Super530D (completely outclassed by R-27R ← more G, more range, able to relock on target, better retention, better explosive mass) and with no option to get a Super 530D with IR sensor, unlike MiG-29A having R-27T (with IRCCM, with all-aspect launch range of 4.8km and 35G [= Magic-2])
so:
YES, current Mig-29A is actually fine at 12.7 - i’ll even say Dominating it’s BR of 12.7.
But thinks what you want,… i don’t care.
F-18 at 12.7?
M2K at 12.7?
F-16AJ at 12.7
r-530 has better kinematics and more range, you are making stuff up again just like you did with the magic 2
it is obvious that you have no clue what you are talking about and never played the mig-29
becasue then you would know that the r-27T has worse IRCCM than the small IRCCM missiles or you would know that it is basically useless
lets look at the facts:
the 12.7 Migs are currently so dominating that they dont even have a KD of 1
meanwhile the F-14A:
meanwhile the M2K:
you are also just making assumptions, or when did you ever play the Mig-29?
or used an r-73/r-27?
becasue i dont see anything of the sorts here:
making a comparative of SARH at 2km altitude? can i laugh at that?
i’m talking of HIGHER altitude,… 2KM is still within the dense Air
also funny that you ignored that i talked of F-16AJ and M2K already but still put a “?” behind them,… you’re just as good as me on this pal.
becasue they are all at 12.7 and all jets that can handel the mig-29 easily
i just saw, you made it a 10km, for missiles able to lock and kill at 30km? (and max range from 40-55km)
for real,… you’re a funny one,… i talked of retention, and range,… and you made it a short range kill,…
you know those were the most favourable conditions for your argument
you are just showing that you have no clue what you are talking about
no one would ever launch a r-27r or r530d at 30km in WT
i do,… and still got kills with them.
ignoring the point arent we?
so riddle me this, how is the r-27r outclassing the r530, even tho it has worse time to target while also being slower than the 530D?
and as said earlier,… there is More Explosive mass in R-27R than Super 530D guaranteing the explosion to kill, and not just hit the wing.
so yes, on a straight line the Super 530D might be bettter,… but you shall know how to use missile from long-ranges
you are a clown out of yourself if you think that you should launch the r27r or r530d at 45km
or if you think that anyone at 12.7 would fly at 10km altitude
in any realistic engagment the r530d wins
you’re the clown not to think that earliest launch are often not seen as threats
most of the time the guy will ignore/go defensive, and by making him defensive, you’re assuring yourself to have a better position than him for the next shot.
it’s like at 9.3 with 9B’s, you don’t shoot to kill, but to make your ennemy turn and slow down.
yeah good luck doing that against the only high flying target at that br
the F-14A
what do you think the “low to high” graph is for?
the R-27R match the Max-range of AIM-7, after you’ve defended all AIM-54/fakour
if you think it is so good grind the mig29 and do bvr with the 27r
you are just showing that you have no clue
becasue there is more to it than just the missile
you completly ignore the avionics
Not support. We don’t need more IRCCM spam.
