What about point 2? I was informed I am able to edit the comment. Why is that option still blocked for me?
I believe at the moment only mods can edit, common people need to reach level 2 in order to be able to edit, which means a minimum of 15 days after you got on this forum (which seems to be the main obstacle, reading posts, liking and getting likes is very feasible in these 15 days…)
Basic features should not be locked behind a loyalty program, or at all. And editing posts is IMO a very, very basic feature. What next? Are most posts now going to be locked until players have a 3 day reading period of all guideline posts? I’ve been playing this game since it was just Wings of Prey, Gaijin obviously links forum users with game users, so they could have removed that 15 day restriction for 99% of players, they didn’t.
And I understand why Gaijin is okay with implementing the Trust System here, but again if accounts are linked with game account then why is it even necessary?
With so many people involved, it’s very hard to pass this as a minor slip on Gaijin’s part.
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The Mods are doing just fine. They are doing what they were informed to do. Instead of shooting their work down like a clay pigeon maybe wait and keep any hateful and obnoxious comments to yourself. This forum is basically brand new. Forums get better over time. They almost never start good. Also if you want to earn that trust level to be able to edit a comment. My advise is keep it low and slow with any hate towards anyone.
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I share some of your thoughts, but not all of them.
Imho there is a kind of misunderstanding regarding roles & responsibilities (and actual status of mods with regards to their employment) and actual free speech in the classic understanding.
From a holistic pov any post in this and in the old forum has zero impact and is pointless as everybody registered here has accepted in the fine print that everything posted can be deleted without any warning or notification - as on any other social platform.
You could argue that offering this platform might be useful to identify just new business opportunities or to give some hints where the game might need some adjustments, nothing more.
From my point of view the “Mods” are simply players like you and me - connected to the game and are doing their job as volunteers without any legally binding power to represent gaijin officially.
Based on various exchanges in the past i saw just in a few cases “unjustified” censorship by very few mods - imho the majority of them are quite nice and very reasonable people.
I mean in the terms of usage any negative feedback towards gaijin (ex. Bots, hack, usefulness of products, business decisions, etc.) is forbidden, so from a different perspective the mods allowed a hell of unpleasant truths about the state of the game and how gaijin handles problems. I am not sure that official staff is fully aware of this.
Regarding social credit system - yes China works like that, but in most Western countries it is a good advice to keep a very low social profile if you are not sharing the main stream opinion regarding certain topics. And imho Russia is no communist country since 1991.
So from a holistic pov this forum has litte to zero impact on the game or gaijin as only a very small minority is active here - compared to a unknown amount of actual players, imho most of them have no clue about this forum.
Just relax…
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Just to make it clear here too – the edit permission was changed today and it’s now available to basically everyone who has done something other than log-in. It is not restricted by a higher trust level anymore, it’s part of the basic one.
I would also just like to say and re-iterate, as it’s been said before, this forum is new. Changes are being discussed / in the works, be assured that we are taking feedback into account and are working on making things better.
As Uncle J Wick said, relax :)
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Please.
The “forum” is not “new”. Only this new userface. It’s all the same basics, people making comments and moderators, moderating. The other stuff is just technical. Someone put all the rules in place for a reason, on purpose. These rules are dictatorial. I will not “relax”. Although I am actually relaxed, I’m just vocalizing the truth. I’ll say what I feel. I’m not cursing. I’m not calling you names. I’m describing exactly what this place is and has been. It’s been the same way except now it’s implemented in the software to help you do it easier and hide behind “the community feedback”. You’ve always locked and deleted posts that disagree with you or complained about certain things. As I said before, one of you made smart mouth replies to one of my suggestions and when I replied back, you banned me for “harassing a moderator”. Please. Could it be any more immature and unprofessional? Yet some moderators love to praise themselves. Now I’m not speaking of you personally as I’ve never seen a negative thing from you. But I’m speaking in general. And about this new forum full of ridiculous control mechanisms. It’s supposed to be here for feedback and info on this game. Not to be like some disciplinary school where we’ve been bad kids and must prove nice to speak. This is ridiculous and I stand by my and others opinions. Disagree all you like. And continue to delete my posts all you like. Hiding behind spam label. It’s actually cowardly.
Instead of worrying about blocking posts, why don’t you make contact with the appropriate people throughout the day and actually get some important things fixed like, thermals, which are important and have been broken since last week? Bug reports obviously don’t help because it’s still broken. It’s a main and critical part of this game to be able to play top tier but treated like no big deal and ignored. I’ve seen things get fixed with a minor update on the very same day. Why are thermals not done as such? It makes it unplayable. So now we have to deal with bug reports not even taken seriously, but also a dictatorship style platform where we should be able to discuss issues or info about the game?
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That’s nice. Where’s the feedback survey/poll? I can’t find it.
Not really any specific place as far as I know, we are just gathering feedback from the various forum topics and passing on issues as they are discovered.
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Kinda like the suggestions and feedback sections, then. That’s cool, I guess. I sure hope these sections weren’t deleted from the new forum or anything during the transition, otherwise it would show Gaijin as completely dismissive of player opinion.
The only big “relevant” section that doesn’t exist anymore is the bug reporting area, because we moved that to the CBR: Gaijin.Net // Issues
The rest, like suggestions and general game discussion etc, remained, but edited / trimmed down as you may have seen. We will, of course, still have feedback topics (or take feedback from replies on news posts im guessing) for when the team is specifically looking to gather feedback for a certain topic (like an update, etc.)
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I would say something “snarky” . . but last time I made a comment towards you the community covered it up . . . . lol. All good, I was just poking fun. I think over time this Forum will find it’s spot and become useful like the other one was . . . just a bit of a learning curve I am hoping.
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Oh thanks, I was really worried because I thought the massive amount of suggestions didn’t move into the new forum, but I guess that’s not true anymore. I’ll go ahead and check into the multiple suggestions I’ve made last month, see how they’re going.
Well, I should clarify, topics generally speaking weren’t moved over. I am not sure about how the suggestions team is handling those yet. That being said though, the old forum is in an archive state for the next 2 years and is available at the bottom of this forum called “Forum Archive”. You can view all posts and suggestions etc there.
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Wait, why is the suggestions team in charge of migrating that section into the new forum? Shouldn’t it be some tech guys? The file system was perfectly fine there.
Suggestions team is in charge of suggestions and the suggestions. Tech guys handle bug reports on the community bug reporting site.
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I meant the tech guys who are in charge of setting up this new forum and transferring the data, not tech support.
So on that note - bug reporting website. Would you check on 2 bug reports that I’ve made that haven’t been addressed? They are important to the state of the game and have had numerous other people complaining about it too, not sure if they’ve done bug reports as well. It’s been a week and at least the thermals issues could have been fixed as important and a default function as they are for the vehicles that have it. The ADATS missiles should have never been changed like this, it’s not even close to how it should be. Now they’re flying out of the ADATS from way up above like a Javelin would and hit ground vehicles from top down. Plus still curving all over.
Please address these issues as nothing seems to be getting done but yesterday just had a minor update and neither of these were addressed. At least the thermals should have been.
Oh I see. That’s not quite what I meant, sorry if I was confusing. As far as I am aware, a mass migration of topics from the old forum to Discourse was not possible. If it were possible it probably would have been done by now. As for suggestions specifically, I am unsure of how the team is handling existing suggestions, there will likely be a public statement of some sort when a decision is made, if it hasn’t been made already. All I can see is this, which the team put out a few days ago:
Beyond that, I don’t know.
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I’m assuming they wanted to update the forums to modernize the backend code. Which is great of course backend development is key. But you really got to be careful when modifying your front end interface. Especially when you have an established market/player base/appeal. I would of offered this as a “option” or “skin” for users and not forced the change on users. I mean look at Windows 11, forcing change seems to be working out great for Microsoft. Magically they keep loosing market share. Real mystery.
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