Talking about bombers

So today i was playing some Bombers and to my shock i didnt die within 2 hits of 20mm and im shocked its a step to making bombers better but tails are still rather weak still can be 1 shot by 20mm but still a little disappointed given how many storys talk about the B-17 tanking 100s of hits and a few cases 1000’s but anyways yeah thats it

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There is an overhaul coming according to the Q&A but we shall await to see what that entails, but the big issue is that aircraft damage models suck.

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hopeful its a good change it feels like hoping for half life 3

Yeah… I dont have much faith in them to do what actually needs to be done.

Though bombers will never be that great in war thunder. Due to flying solo usually, rather than in large formations with mutual fire. You will always be a fairly easy target and there usually isnt a good enough target to actually bomb

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I wished they added strategic bombing and the B-52 even if its just in to dynamic campaign

Yeah, id mess about in the Vulcan all the time, but alas, even aircraft like the Buc and Tonka dont have a great time at the moment

because 20mm guns are bugged, AGAIN…
0 damage against everything, i’m not going insane guys!!!

i hope not

You were saying?

I fired like 4 rounds of Air targets mg151/20 (second burst, first one missed) and it cut the tail of that F4U-4 right off.

Mind you, the corsairs are quire tanky aircraft to boot, too.

Survivable bomber is the last thing that I want, bombers allready have the advantage over fighter granted they have good aim, I dont want them to be even more cancer

No they don’t what are you going on about? bombers are free RP piñatas ever since Gaijin nerfed the hell out of them in favour of braindead fighter gameplay

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Depends on the game mode.

In ASB, bombers get third person view with three-plane stabilized gunners. This is independent of the actual aircraft so just because B-25s may have had such advanced guns, it applies to all of them. Some people use certain bombers to gunship people and getting rid of them is very difficult when flying with stick and rudder from first person view.

Squishface talks about it at length here.

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Have you tried using the machine gun? If you actually try to fight back and not just fly directly to the base while taking pot shot at enemies, you will find bombers to be very effective at taking out other player

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Depends on the bomber. Some have great coverage, others great guns, some have both, some have neither.

Something like the Halifax or Lancaster can’t really do anything other than minorly inconvenience an attacker

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I have, they all get fucked up convergences you can’t adjust and you NEED to be good at aiming to get anything done before the fighter points and clicks at you.

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Almost every single bomber has the capacity to kill or force a fighter to go back to base,
People think their weak because no one puts the same ammount of effort in learning how to aim with a bomber than aiming with a fighter

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and all the fighter player needs to do is think about turret coverage and they can remain totally and completely safe from the bomber

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On late war B-17’s.B-24’s,and B-29’s had something to help the gunner lead the target as the the B-17 the K-4 and K-3 Gunner sighs and for the B-24’s and the B-29s central fire system but for some reason gaijin wont add any assisted aiming even if it was a thing but its whatever

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imo, thats not even that big of a deal, its the artificially induced weapon spread for most turrets and dealing with the paralax caused by the angle. Removing that weapon spread and allowing for first person aiming of turrets would be a notable and yet fair buff

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i would love to have a first person view on the gunners it

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