Both the H-1 and C-3. Take away their air spawn. The P-47 treatment.
It’s blatantly overpowered and allows otherwise sh*t players to begin the game with a ridiculous energy advantage that, if utilized properly, leaves enemy teams with no way to contest the high altitudes.
It’s not a coincidence that german mains fly it so frequently during event grinds. Easy braindead kills, you can only die if you overcommit or do something really stupid.
The problem isn’t localized to one or two planes.
Skill issue
You could’ve just typed “I am bad at the game” and spared yourself the time
Look familiar? ;)
I find fighting these aircraft is not that hard…
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For the H-1? Maybe, I can see it with an AF spawn as it has an egregiously high climb rate.
The C, though…? Absolutely not.
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If they do that then they would have to ground other planes ,then certain US/RU planes couldn’t take off because of their loadouts that are made up for “balance”.
H1 repair cost is so high it’s only flown by good pilots, its crap on the deck bring it down that way
In a straight line they are…
I played p47-28 a lot. Not once have I been caught in a chase by a Spit of all planes, and Billy the forum clown here probably got KO’d hard by some Spit player, cried and seethed, and there he goes crying about the WUNDERWAFFE Spit that can totally catch a p47 in a DIVE LMAOOOOOO maybe bro is comparing the 5.7+BR spits to 5.0 p47, and even then a p47 won’t rip wings at 800kph dive unlike a Spit
pro tip: a p47 needs to save its energy, it accelerates poorly
Most of the time it is half of the team’s fighter force. If you can’t win a match with a 3-to-1 numerical advantage, you’re just bad.
Both Ta152s have shit climb rates.
Ta 152 H-1 has same engine as the 190 D-12, except it’s heavier - 3686kg empty for the 190, and 4095kg for the 152 H.
Ta 152 C-3 is a free kill with the WORST TURN RATE of any single engine fighter.
And at low altitude, both are slow and easy to catch up to with american fighters.
Lmfao what? That thread wasn’t even mine 😂
Looks like someone can dish sh*t but can’t take it…
I also, have killed a good number of spits in my time and same with 152’s… I find that neither of them are that hard, just have to learn how to fight them…
I’m also, not the one coping and seething here… I have yet to make a thread complaining about an aircraft being to OP… Unlike some of us here (you cough cough)…
Also, looks at my stat card… How many times have I flown a 47?? Almost never fly them, because I hate them and haven’t taken the time to learn them yet…
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H-1 has by far the worst climb rate among all 5.7-6.0 fighters. OK, maybe He-162 is worse, but who knows, maybe with under 10m of fuel it still climbs better somehow :D
Ta-152H wouldn’t be a great climber even around 3.7 because it’s beaten by 1940 Sptifires and Bf 109s, also Ki-44-II (but what isn’t :D), C.205 S1, P-39N, P-63A5 and probably some others.
C3 at 6.3 with new, nerfed flight model is a goddamn joke.
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What is bro even yapping about?? 3v1 is indeed a typical scenario but i’m the 1, because my USA teams just die
Oh so fatass P-47s can have their air spawn taken away but superior german engineering can’t
P-47 D-28 is 5.0 and climbs to 5000 in 4:13, 12s faster than Ta-152H, while also being slightly faster at most altitudes (actually noticeably faster mid game when Ta-152H is experiencing oil overheating for “reasons”).
P-47 has also armanent that is actually effective at range and vs fast targets.
German 1944-1945 prop driven planes engineering was nothing special, and clearly not “superior”. Ta-152H would need diet and DB603 running both C3 and MW50 or some super-boosted Jumo-213 (which was an excellent engine, mind you, but it was forced to run low octane fuel, with 150 octane it would blow Griffon out of the water) to kinda rival (and still get outperformed, mind you) Griffon Spitfires in acceleration and climb. But there was no such thing as German engine running C3 + MW50 outside of final variants of DB605 with super short expected engine lifespan.
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We just gonna ignore the swarms of free kill Ju288s?
Last I checked, no P-47 is 6.0. And in return, the P-47s all get real oil coolers instead of whatever fantasy gaijin believes in that the oil on any Fw190 or Ta152 won’t cool down unless you drop to 90% throttle. It also gets EIGHT .50cals, which I like far more than the potato launchers on the 152 H.
And even then, the DB605DC only made ~2000hp, which is actually less than the Jumo 213A’s 2100hp, on 92 octane fuel + MW50, that is very close to it in displacement. The MW50 makes it roughly equal to 100-105 octane fuel, so there was a LOT of power to gain there had germany had access to as much 130 and 150 octane fuel as the allies did.
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What plane are you even using that the 152H is such a pain in the ass for you?
Yeah, Jumo was a real marvel of enginebuilding, and it actually had lower displacement compared to DB605, at least according to wiki.
Maybe they should have indeed made Jumos displacement bigger, 37l would sound pretty adequate for bigger/heavier airframes of Fw 190/Ta-152.
Either way, I love how somebody can claim Ta-152H has a great climb, when it’s obvious it gets outclimbed by a lot of planes despite the airspawn. And Spitfire Mk XIV f.e. is a gigantic pain to deal with.
And yeah, potato launchers is also my preferred term for the armanent nowadays :)
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35L vs 35.7L, pretty small difference all things considered. But the advantage in power is undeniable and I’m surprised that outside of the Me 209, Messerschmitt never put a 213 in a 109. Especially since the DB603 was just not ready or performing up to standard.
My only complaints about the 213 in-game are the overheating and the aircraft it is mounted on…
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