The T80UD is under-tiered; it should be at least Tier 10.7. Its armour makes it too strong for tier 10.3. Its Contact 5 ERA is overpowered, especially when combined with a 6-second autoloader and a powerful engine. The worst thing is that, if it is fully downtiered to tier 9.3, it can destroy the entire lobby.
Imagine you are playing your MBT 70 and encounter a T80UD. Even if you land the first shot, it probably won’t do much damage, unless you manage to destroy it in one shot — which is difficult, given the current state of the XM578 round. If you haven’t destroyed its gun by then, you’re finished. They will one-shot you to 90%, and even if they don’t, they will probably still outload you.
Now, if you compare it to other 10.3 Russian tanks, it’s still far better: it has better sights than both T72B variants, and an FCS that lets the commander fire the main gun too. They share the same APFSDS, but the reload time is one second faster than both T72s. The engine is also superior because it produces more horsepower. The only thing the T72s are ‘better’ at is their raw armour, but the T80UD compensates for this with its Contact-5 ERA.
In my opinion, it would be best to move it to tier 10.7, as it’s about as good as the Leopard 2A4, if not slightly better. And yes, I own the tank, so I can speak from experience.
are you CRAZY? T80UD only he is real 10.3!! T72B and 1989 is maximum 9,7! T72 have not zoom, not thermal, not reverse speed, ARMOR is REALLY BAD JOKE… this is only paper! and T80UD i have 50 battles and i was 7x versus 9.3 Br!! i play nonstop in UPTIER… nonstop leopard leopard leopard 10.7Br. T72B and 1989 is really bad joke with armor! And gaijin has gone crazy since November I’ve been playing in UPTIER 7-8 battles out of 10!
nah, im just comparing it to the Challenger Mk.2, Rooikat 105, TTD, Radkampfwagen 90, Boxer MGS, Strv 105which have very similar pen but the ZTZ96A, ZLT11, Vextra 105, Sabra Mk.I (a lot more)… which have a bit more pen
ZTZ96A is not nearly as strong as the T80UD, the LFP can get penned by a 30mm, the ZLT and Vextra (which, btw, doesn’t even have more pen, OFL 105 G1 has 445 at 0m 0°, as 3BM42 has 457mm at 0m 0°) are both light tanks, and the Sabra is a slightly uparmored Magach 7 with a strong APFSDS.
sorry but you just want to put all tanks at 10.7 from 10.3! so that you have as few UPTIER opponents as possible in your premium 9.3 tanks, right? this is pathetic.
and why not, T-80UD is for all intent and purpose a T-80U with a diesel engine.
it has better amor, a better round and as of recently a 6 sec reload.
I get why T-72B’s are not 10.7, but the UD not really.
at 10.3 the most it can meet IPM1, GER has no MBT’s at 11.3, GBR has no MBT’s at 11.3, CHN has 2 x ZTZ99’s at 11.0, ITA has no MBT at 11.3, FRA has the MCS at 11.0, SWE has no 11.3 MBT’s, ISR has the Merkava 3’s and Raam segol. (in a full uptier)
So, out of all 9 countries at 10.3 it can face a single USA MBT, 3 Merkava’s & two Chinese MBT’s.
Even at 10.7 add M1A1’s and the Type 90’s to the list, other countries start at 12.0 and up.
The Premium with the least opposition are at 10.3, they feast regularly on the abundance of 9.3 second gen MBT’s, which can with DM33 be a threat, but with 3BM42 you can quick scope these.
you out load them with nearly a full second (expert crew).
and trust me i have it and already used it with my 10.7 line up its more then fine. having played a lot of 9.3 these things were and still are a menace, you can take them out but you need to aim, the UD doesn’t.