Skill issue
Uptiers do affect fun potential, you enjoy the 9.x bracket because it hardly ever sees uptiers. t64b is my highest KD vehicle and its pretty much because its at br 9.0 effectively instead of 9.7. Its def not fun getting uptiered into fuji spam every match I promise you.
The point im trying to make is there isn’t really a BR system in game right now for the majority of BRs the MM acts more like a soft bracket system and if the BR you are playing in is at the bottom of that bracket you suffer. On that graph the only healthy ground BRs in game are 6.0-9.3 since thats the only place +1/-1 MM isn’t common enough for any BR to see and enjoys better MM since populations is evenly spread throughout. 8.0 being the only kinda loser, but not really that bad.
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USSR 9 and 9.3 is fun because of the unique and quirky vehicles. Object279, Object775, BMP3/4. China has uptier proof vehicles like AFT09 at 9.0. I judge lineups by the vehicles within, not how often it gets uptiered. Maybe if you only play MBTs would you worry too much about that.
Just saying I don’t pick what lineups to play based on downtiers/uptiers. Didn’t even know there was a chart for it.
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I know but imagine a world where the MM different and your 9/9.3 is constantly fighting 10.3/10.0 every match basically.
Youd be asking yourself why spawn bmp3 when I can 2s38 or xyz mbt when I can spawn t80ud if the MM is putting me in these games everytime anyways.
You can pull the fun card, but its subjective, and these higher rank vehicles might be just as fun if not more to some people while also being significantly stronger as bonus.
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Love the T-64B for its current place the the matchmaker as well shame Russia 9.7 is kinda empty
Use minedeployers sights for the khrizentema, its really fun.
Wasn’t long ago that 279/BMP3 was in games with what is now 10.3. Tandem head ATGM don’t care what BR you are. And 279 eats in uptiers all the same, even before those vehicles went to 10.3. There’s a reason why 279 is my most played vehicle. The ones that suffer are tanks like the T-62M1, they’re more sensitive to BR changes.
It does when tanks start getting plastered in composite armor.
I know even 9.0 darts can kill t90m from front in 1 shot and its not even like some small weakpoint its just a normal LFP shot, take breahces out just as well too, but these tanks suffer greatly in mobility, gun handling, armor basically everything compared to higher BR offerings. I get its not like WW2 brs were its literally game over fighting stuff even 1 br higher but its still not great.
Like i said, tandem head warheads don’t care what BR you are. AFT09, ZT3A2 and the others work at top-tier just as much their own.
Also i understand things like the BMD4 are more fun to play than the 2s38, but it stops being fun when the ammo stops being effective and the atgms are meeting composites.
You hit him right in the lfp, its not an easy shot for atgm carriers esp at range/moving targets. You go from lolpenning anything you see to having to hit weakspots with things that are signifcantly harder to aim than darts.
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It’s okay to admit when you’re wrong.
I guess am i wrong after playing around in protection map, thought it would stop these guess it doesn’t.
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im still right about the MM )))
Maybe ill drag the khriz up now.
Now if we were discussing TOW2B, I’m on your side
Give me tandem ATGM over those top down ones any day.
Khriz is one I’ve not had great results in, wish it had more tubes. Ground radar is gimmicky at best. Only some meme heli snipes:
Honestly, i wouldn’t mind to have T-72B 1985 with lower BR with REMOVED top darts.
Now i don’t see a point in trying it out, due to T80UD being at the same BR.
The T72B is better then the T72b 1989. T72B 1989 problem is pretty much everything that is a downgrade from the original T72B other then Kontact-5
I really like the radar hit a lot of shots I wouldnt without it on longer range maps like gokarts going 100kmph side aspect 1km out, you can find people in brush you cant see with thermals, and you can use it to guide shots while your optics cant see behind cover.
I remember the last one where I had to get completely behind cover to dodge a dart the tank was shooting at me and the radar kept lock behind cover just long enough to guide it in. Optics were staring at dirt in front of me for almost the last 2 seconds.
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Yet here you are.
Those are soft stats you are comparing.
Yes it’s less mobile than a Leopard 2 that is realistic and be thankful Gaijin havent modelled the horrendous offroad performance and gunner accuracy on the move.
Yes again that’s a tank design…Did you give it a plus for being a smaller silhouette?
DM-53 is good but so is 3BM60, the HE round is also great for overpressuring tanks in cover.
Autoloader consistent rate of fire, no reload delayed if the loader is killed and you can still load the gun manually when the loader mechanism is damaged.
Worse armour not really on a snap shot the T-72/80 and 90 have a higher survival rate.
Lets talk about what you missed…No turret basket, cannot completely cripple a T-series tank with that kind of shot.
Fuel tanks and mantlet eating rounds
50 cal commander mg
APS system makes it largely immune to helicopter ATGMS and even Brimstones.
Is it a great tank? No but it isn’t bad one
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damaged autoloader = no loading. You can’t manually load.
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False
False again. You can cripple T-series easily, and autoloader damage cripple the tank the same way as turret baskets.
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T72B is 10.3 and it does not have APS.
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Its significantly worse than even your 4th spawn mbt in german 12.0 lineup.
Putin doesnt pay me enough to respond to this anymore than that.
Wait I just got 20 rubles, if russia got a 2a4 passed off as an object 1234 and gave it 3mb60/gen3 thermals and stuck it at 12.0 people would argue its better than the bvm thinking its some kind of wonder weapon with reverse gears and depression never seen before and the forums would cry russian bias.
They must have changed it recently then I have loaded a shell manually in the British T-90S…
Not really as to hit the autoloader you have to go through the front plate. Most shots best place is the lower front plate and if that doesn’t kill the tank the round passes through and hits the engine.
Do the same on a Leopard 2 and you take out the gun and FCS system as well as the engine.
T-90 in the British tree has more chance of bouncing a rushed shot than the top tier CR2…
The armour despite being K5 is still very good.
The reply was to the T-72B3A comment…I’m aware