T72 Commander's Copula is modeled incorrectly

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Good day all,

Well, because I’ve been forwarded to the forum for this, let’s talk about the T-72 Commander’s Copula that’s currently in game and how it’s wrong!

Gaijin support response
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As a disclaimer, I did attempt to have this ran up through the proper chain of a bug report through the War Thunder Community Report, but got denied twice with “it’s not a bug”. T-72 series missing commander’s copula armor // Gaijin.net // Issues

So, currently in game, all T-72 variants have their commander’s hatch being horizontally flat and doesn’t go above the rim of the weld line.

T-72 snapshot
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HOWEVER, that’s not how it looks like in real life.
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As you can tell, the depth of the cover is pretty significant. However, “Bug Reporting Manager #1” stated that it was “This is not armor, but anti-radiation protection. The developers do not plan to add it.”
( T-72A/T-72B/T-72B (1989)/T-72B3/T-90M Missing Cupola Collision // Gaijin.net // Issues)
(T-72A/ T-72B/ T-72B (1989)/ T-72B3/ T-90M Missing Cupola Armour // Gaijin.net // Issues)
Fun fact, there IS anti-radiation armor there… on the outside of the hatch, which is called Podboi lining. It’s made out of a borated doped polyethylene that’s to minimize radiation dosage to the crew inside. It, however, will provide negligible ballistic protection as it’s just a plastic. If you’re interested to see more of the T-72 tank, I recommend the videos by The Tank Museum (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XjFKVyXzls&t=1234s) or Wargaming Europe, who partnered with Australia Armour and Artillery Musuem (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krp2y88nNCo).

The reason I’m bringing this up is that it would add a realistic weak spot to the T-72 series that SHOULD be there, seeing how Gaijin loves to talk about high fidelity models. This doesn’t even get into the issue of Gaijin still not adding Soviet/Russian tank equipment required for turret rotation like they promised almost a YEAR ago, but I’m just trying to start out small. What do y’all think, should it be properly modeled or just a waste of modeler time?

Should we push for fixing the T-72 model?
  • Yes, it should be fixed
  • No, it’s a waste of time for Gaijin
  • At another time, we have bigger fish to fry
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There’s no need about this poll, every issue in this God damn game should be fixed, and most of them could’ve been fixed a long time ago. Although situational, this problem with the T-72’s armor could be used as a nice weakspot, myself included I tried to use that, fool me the game doesn’t have it modelled. This apply to every T-72 vehicle, from T-72A to T-72 Arena-E, T-90A being the exception to this case.

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I absolutely agree, but it’s just more ammo to bring up to Gaijin on how it should be fixed and that the community wants it/doesn’t want it. Every time we’ve had to push as a community to fix things, it’s effectively been a hard requirement.

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It’s a nerf to the premium T-72 TURMS, forget it’ll ever get fixed lul.
But yeah, just another one to add to the pile…

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Ha, fair enough. I tried to get the AH-1G/Tzefa A/Tzefa B gunsight fixed to be for the rockets as per the Flight Manual and the Bug Moderator just went “nuh uh” and closed them, stating I didn’t add a source even though I linked it and turns out, there’s TWO available versions (the 1967 and 1975 Flight Manuals).

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