T70 Gun Motor Carriage (UK Trials) - the Hellcat prototype crosses the Atlantic

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No photos of the T70 GMC during UK trials have been found

Introduction

The T70 Gun Motor Carriage (GMC), the precursor to the iconic M18 Hellcat, was conceived in response to the United States’ 1941 vision for a highly mobile vehicle capable of outmaneuvering enemy tanks and positions and delivering heavy firepower, at the expense of essentially all armour protection. In-service vehicles, such as the M10, were highly capable, but often bemoaned for being too heavy and sluggish. Early attempts to fulfill this role included designs mounting a 37 mm gun on the Light Airborne Tank T9 chassis, designated as the T42 in December 1941. In April 1942, the design evolved into the T49 with a 57 mm gun and a coil spring suspension, and by November 1942, it further developed into the T67, now equipped with the same 75 mm M3 gun as the M4 Sherman.

Testing of the T67 revealed the need for a more powerful engine and better armament, leading to the cancellation of the project in January 1943. That same month, the Ordnance Department ordered six pilot vehicles of a new design: the T70 GMC This vehicle would incorporate a 76 mm M1A1 gun, torsion bar suspension, improved hull design, and a new turret, along with the Wright R-975 radial aircraft engine. The first pilot model was delivered in April 1943, with all six completed by July of that year.

Performance testing of the T70 at General Motors’ Proving Ground was mixed. A few teething issues involving the engine, transmission, suspension, and gun mounting had to be rectified, but for a vehicle fresh off the drawing board it was a success. Despite weighing around 20 tons, the T70 could reach speeds up to 55 mph (88 kph), making it the fastest U.S. armoured fighting vehicle of the war. Following minor modifications, it was accepted into service as the M18 Hellcat later in 1943.

In terms of foreign service during WW2, five pilot models were sent to the Soviet Union for well-documented trials, and two pilot vehicles were also evaluated in the UK, in trials that were much more poorly documented, with no photos being known to exist (although I am certain there are some out there, either physical copies in archives/private collections, or digital copies on some obscure corner of the internet).

In mid 1943, the UK was seeking a replacement for its US-built M10 tank destroyers, and was considering the T70 as a potential option. The UK was positively interested in the vehicle, however, they were of the opinion that the US 76mm was insufficient against modern heavy armour, and considered the 17pdr or 90mm the minimum acceptable firepower for any new tank destroyer that was to enter service.

Lend-Lease records indicate that two T70 GMCs were sent to the UK in 1943 for trials purposes, and correspondence from the Ministry of Supply and War Office confirms that a pilot model was examined in the UK in January 1944. The UK was generally impressed with the vehicle, however, the turret was deemed incapable of housing the 17pdr. With the UK finally getting the 17pdr in a self-propelled mount, in the Achilles and Firefly, there was little appetite for a tank destroyer that offered a downgrade in firepower (in the eyes of the UK), despite the increase in mobility that the T70 offered. The T70 was considered ‘otherwise excellent’, but the UK decided to procure more M10 GMCs, with the option of domestically converting them into Achilles.

In game, the T70 GMC would give the UK much-needed mobile, hard hitting firepower (with APHE and a reverse gear!) at around 6.0, to accompany the medium and heavy tanks that currently sit at that BR.

Specifications

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Images

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T70 GMC
T70 undergoing US trials

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T70 during Soviet trials

Sources

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Ministry of Supply / War Office Correspondence, dated February 1st, 1944 - available here (cheers to Ed Francis for this one)

Lend-Lease Shipments, World War II, US War Department, December 1946 - available here

M18 Hellcat Tank Destroyer, 1943-1997, Osprey Publishing, 2004, ISBN 978-1841766874 - available here

https://www.tankarchives.ca/2017/05/hellcat-highway-tank-destroyer.html

https://www.tankarchives.ca/2016/05/halfway-to-hellcat.html

https://www.dday-overlord.com/en/material/tank/m18-hellcat

+1 for America

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+1 for BP/Event as it’s tested only.

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+1 for the UK, be a nice addition

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-1 absolutely unnecessary and removes the uniqueness of one of the best US vehicles, it’s already bad enough that Italy gets it, but they at least used it and this ultimately has no place in the British tree

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It’s a T70. It’s a worse M18. It’s more Unique than the M18. Also China gets an M18.

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-1, not British and only evaluated. Just as bad as adding MiG or Typhoon to USA

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+1 as Event vehicle, there is no need for this to be a purchaseable Premium.

Great suggestion though, I look forward to seeing other obscure Lend-Lease test vehicles put forward such as the T26E3!

Once again for the hard of hearing or understanding; M18/T70 is a Tank Destroyer, not a Light Tank.

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This you?

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FlyingOstridge

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Fully American vehicle going to UK vs. Fully American except for British gun going to US

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And yet you want this in Sweden?

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Hmmm let’s see, a conversion made by the US using a US designed tank with a both hull and turret being US made with only the gun being British, authorised for serial production and service use by the US and only stopped because the war was ending, with a total of 80 produced versus a foreign vehicle that was TRIALED only and REJECTED…considering that, why are you even bringing up my other comment?

Because it removes the uniqueness of one of the best UK vehicles, it’s already bad enough that Italy gets it, but they at least used it and this ultimately has no place in the American tree

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Damn this sounds familiar, I wonder where I’ve heard something like this before 🤔

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I’d agree if the US Firefly was a complete copy paste, or a trialed vehicle, but it isn’t, it’s a unique modification which makes it a far better addition than the suggested T70 or anything similar

Is the T70 in the American tree right now? Last I checked they have the M18. with 50 more horsepower and some other stuff.
The T70 is Unique because it is a prototype same as how the Sherman IVCY is unique because it is a prototype.
I fail to see your point here.

that is a unique modification, never heard of such a mix of Sherman parts before. Its also the first official tank of Denmark which is pretty historically significant. While T70 GMC is a fully American design, that was only ever evaluated by the UK

Yeah having less HP doesn’t make it unique, it would just be a derated M18 like how the Black Cat was for a few months, sitting at the same BR and being objectively worse. The US Firefly is unique because it would have significantly better mobility and armor.

Besides that, the major point here that this is a trialed vehicle which have absolutely no place in the game, otherwise you could add most German WW2 vehicles to the US, give most WW2 US vehicles to Britain and Russia etc. slowly but surely completely killing any differences between nations.

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RAM and Skink in the US tree are sweating in a corner so hard rn

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