No, it’s not an overreaction. It’s a cunt move by Gaijin, simple as that. But we’re used to that. Gaijin just being Gaijin.
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It is. France has a whole lineup of autoloader thanks with oscillating turrets lower than t58 The reload will be nerfed and it will be moved up a little bit people are just mad at a new vehicle
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There’s no comparison with the French tanks…none. They run a 4.0s reload time, the T58 has 2.6s!..and its a 155mm! And the oscilating turret on the French rigs is a weakness because their rings are butter. On the T58 the combined thickness you need to get through is almost 500mm at its weakest point.
The thing is absolutely idiotic in its design. It doesn’t need to be moved up a BR, it needs to be removed entirely. But we know that ain’t happening, Gaijin wants its money, game quality be damned.
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BRUH, I have the Object 140, I almost never survive ANY shots in it. Especially after they moved it up now. They absolutely ruined it. It needs to go back down. They also ruined mine and many other’s lineups with that increase. It wasn’t even performing well on the charts before the increase.
In GRB it is now 0.3 away from the T-55AM-1
And in Arcade, it is now the SAME BR as the T-55AM-1!!! NO 🙅♂️ It was a terrible decision to increase its BR.
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Imagine my shock that the turret that has a lower volumetric meme and a smooth forehead bounces rounds.
How about don’t shoot the turret but the hull like every other nominally armored tank of that time frame.
Or just apply HE to forehead since its only 30mm to 25.4mm.
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Like I said give it time plus it has the same hull as m103 saying it needs to be removed completely is hyperbole
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Not in any game I’m playing using it
Hardly…
It’s pretty obnoxious when the only thing you can shoot is the hull, so you put an APFSDS in the nose and the driver eats the whole thing, or somehow it bounces. Sure, it’s got no stabilizer, but with its absurd rate of fire you can just start blasting and hope for the best.
The survivability of the T-58 is very trolly, making it really aggravating to play against.
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If you are somehow bouncing any sabot or even basic APDS on a M103 hull you need help, that thing is comically weak at 7.7, let alone 8.3, to that same end the front of the hull is 80% charges, even if you hit the driver you will pretty much always hit charge unless the T58 chose to only take rounds in it’s autoloader which means it only has 6 shots.
I’m so sorry that a 8.3 US vehicle actually has armor for once, you might need to actually aim instead of just firing sabot or HEAT center mass.
Woe is ye.
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It had a WORLDWIDE 1.9 KD on statshark, was bought by good players and spammed out by them, hence it went up.
I recently started playing it at 8.7 (never got the chance to play it at 8.3), and its just plain balanced. Its fine at 8.7, just a few undertiered vehicles below it that need to go up and 35mm SPAA that need to get their belts reworked to 1 APHE and 3 HE.
you repeated the same thing twice
I stated “Basic APDS” to further emphasize that even the lowest form of “sabots” cant easily be bounced.
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Welcome to war thunder! We value fair and balanced gameplay
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Just standard gaijin tactics to sell more premiums. They will move it up once it stops selling
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Is the T58 supposed to have a blowout panel
If you are somehow bouncing any sabot or even basic APDS on a M103 hull you need help
I don’t know what to tell you, I’ve seen it happen with M735. Same goes for the driver eating the whole thing without further damage.
I’m so sorry that a 8.3 US vehicle actually has armor for once, you might need to actually aim instead of just firing sabot or HEAT center mass
I’m a US main with every tech tree vehicle unlocked but the CLAWS and Stingray. I get it. I’m just saying, the T-58 is friggin’ annoying.
In arcade this thing is completely broken. The mvp is almost always a T58 wallet warrior, often with no deaths.
The turret will consistently tank even the best APFSDS rounds at 8.3. When you pen the breach turns yellow
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chipping in from meeting these things in ground RB with 7.7 france.
in comparison to the 7.7 french autoloaders some people in here compare them to, they have
- much better armor
- at least on par mobility
- faster turret traverse(except for the somua SM)
- an autoloader with a reload-rate almost twice as fast
- a cannon with a 55mm bigger caliber and better gun handling
- get HEAT shells
- a rangefinder most of the french 7.7 autoloaders dont get
yet they only sit 0.6 BR higher.
this is ridiculous and another case of a whole BR range suffering for the purpose of a single (premium) vehicle.
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