aim below the gun
because if you aim properly, it can still be 1 shotted in the front, the bmpt cannot.
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what is driver port??
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Because the BMPT was literally added 2.0 below where it should be, whilst T58 can barely be considered too strong.
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60% wr, 2+ kd = “barely be considered too strong” ? can i have whatever youre smoking?
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You’re right, the EBR should move up again cuz good stats.
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The PZH 2000 isn’t supposed to have armor. Why doesn’t anyone complain that it’s HE nukes any and all vehicles it can see?
Oh ok, the Panzerhoubitze also isn’t “post ww2” it is still used 2day.
t58 has far better stats than any of the ebrs so try again
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You just defeated your own point XD. Stats don’t determine whether a vehicle should be moved or not, we saw that with the entire French TT. What determines whether a vehicle should be moved is its capabilities.
T58 has
- no stabilizer
- no LRF
- no thermals
- no sabot (and its main shell was recently nerfed)
- bad mobility
- massive recognizable silhouette
all in exchange for
- very firepower
- somewhat good armor
Seriously, anyone who somehow struggles to fight a T58 in a light tank meta BR is just bad.
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ebr does fine at its br though, so you kinda proved my point thanks
T58 also has a 1 shot gun on a 2s reload which alone would put it at 8.3+ without even taking into account the turret armor
XD the guy who thinks a 3.7 Puma equivelant is fine at 5.3 is tryna tell you about what is and isn’t balanced.
90% of Warthunder fights end in the first shot. Having a stabilizer is better than having a shot reload.
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I mean, we have 2s38 (spaag) labeled as light tank. Namer is also labeled as light tank with its 60+ tons of mass. So nothing unusual
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Its a toxic and undertiered as hell vehicle that ought to be 9.0
Only one of those is a german MBT and one as a post ww2 era vehicle, the third is the PZH2000 SPH
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“Nightmare” without stab, lrf and proper munitions. Turm 3 and 35mm spaags are good at making t58 owners regret buying this vehicle. Just like other stab vehicles that always shoot first
Because no one cares about 8.3, and that it’s not Russian. If it was Russian this community would have a meltdown because 50%+ have heavy biases against Russia,
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No, it’s just because it’s not OP.
A good T58 operator sitting at objective point is technically a Thanos level threat in a partial downtier match, worse than Maus sitting at objective point vs 6.7s lol
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Thanos with or without all 6 infinity stones
9.3 without stone
9.0 power stone
8.7 two stones
8.3 three stones
7.7 - 8.0 6 stones
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