why don’t u speak about how broken the German and Swedish Leos that can’t be killed by one shot ?
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Because I have 0 issue one shotting them 99% of the time. THe only tank that I encounter that routinely takes 2-3 rounds, if they pen at all. Is the T-80BVM
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Ever heard of the driver hatch, turret ring, or UFP? The Leo 2A7V has the exact same weak points as the Strv 122. Just because you can’t shoot anywhere on the hull anymore to kill a Leo is far from making them ‘broken’.
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This thing will be basically unkillable. I expect an 85+% winrate for the russians unless something changes.
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yeah and shoting Russian tanks without even aiming bc if u shoot center mass of it garantie that u either kill it , get the main gun , breach and gunner and the comander huh
seems annoying to have to aim huh
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???
I dont even know what you are trying to say.
No, i dont really mind. Killing strvs is about as hard as killing bvms if you know where to aim, it makes no diffrence if i fight them in a Type 10, 2A6, BVM or Strv122. If you want to actually complain about which tanks are hardest to kill, go play more than one nation.
facing an abrams u have to shoot the breach , facing leos u need to aim at the breach also bc shooting the driver might not kill the comander and gunner at the same time, shooting any Russian tanks just shoot the driver hatch 1 kill shot or the breach of which 80% of the time it will kill both the gunner and comander , or the lower front plate of which will blow up the ammo , or any shot that pins the sides is a 1 kill shot , birtish u need to aim only at the lower front plate , japan , china , same steps with USSR , sweeds are just annoying af extra armor everywhere and even the side shot are RNG
Yea no thats literally a you issue, im not one to stat shame but if you claim that shooting the driver hatch on a leopard to be inconsistent thats literally a skill issue and it shows.
Its a straight line from drivers head to gunners feet. In this case i even got the loader. (3BM60 btw)
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okay then i just needs u to just stop still while i aim at the driver hatch while also i’m moving huh ? ur argument is just not so valid bc of RNG
If you struggle to kill a moving leopard thats not RNG thats you not being able to lead your shots.
still my argument stands and u using the pen anlayzer isn’t enough to backup ur argument
yeah shoot here and will kill a leo 100000% of the times ur arugment
Im not gonna waist my time if you are not going to bring any actual arguments, if you want to continue do it in PMs not here.
Nothing changed and the Russian winrate is the 2nd lowest at 45%.
Doesnt make the tank bad, you are using the same logic gaijin uses to nerf french vehicles
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Oh, didn’t you know?
When any non-Russian Win Rate is low, it’s because “their players suck even if their tanks are OP”.
But when Russia’s Win Rate is low, it’s because “their tanks are so bad not even their pro players can make up for it”.
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Russian win rate is bad because:
- They keep getting paired with USA.
- Russia had a horrible habit of a mongo rush style…just hold w for the win. With the buff to Germany and Sweden this is much more difficult as their survivability has gone up exponentially. If you mindlessly rush them they will destroy you.
The good thing ( wink wink) is that Gaijin can use Russian loss rates to buff Russia.
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Precisely. Just look at this clip I recorded the other day.
A T-90M player mindlessly W’d into an Abrams that was behind a hill and aiming at us, got shot, blown up… and he started raging about it, like it wasn’t 100% their own fault.
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Incredible how capable you are of making up a strawman and arguing with something that wasn’t said.
What you somehow failed to grasp in my single sentence was the point, which is that:
- One insane person deluded in their victim mentality over a perceived “russian bias” said the T-90M (a sidegrade to the BVM at best) will make Russia have an 85+% winrate (unprecedented).
- With 20/20 hindsight, I said that the Russian winrate with the T-90M is now 45%. 2nd lowest. (Which is a factual statement).
What you, and two others, have construed from this - is that I implied Russian tanks are bad/suffering. Which is obviously something that wasn’t said, hence me saying that you made up a strawman and are arguing with your own delusions.
What is a fact is that the Strv 122B+ and Leopard 2A7V are far better vehicles than the T-90M. Incomparably better. And their statistics show. They’re actually better than every other vehicle.
Russian vehicles themselves are perfectly solid and the BVM/T-90M are tanks that are clearly superior to the Ariete, Merkava and Challenger 2. While their performance is fairly balanced in comparison to the LeClerc, ZTZ-99A, M1A2 and Type 10. (Going from least balanced to most balanced).
But the clear superiority of the German and Swedish Leopards (the Swedish Strv 122A being the best tank in the game for the last 3 years, as well) has essentially ruined the balance of top tier.
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