The engine doesn’t create reverse speed, the transmission does…
When Pakistan purchased 6TD-II engines from Ukraine for their Al-Khalid fleet, they also introduced a new transmission for the vehicle, this would also almost be guaranteed for the T-80UD/DU-1 if engine upgrades did take place for said engine.
Information on engine upgrades are scarce, I have vague primary sources referring to the 6TD-II engine but this wouldn’t be enough for a bug report hence why I haven’t made a report for it quite yet.
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Allegedly the Buran-Catherine-E thermal imager, if I recall the first initial 15 batches didn’t come with thermals and Pakistan threatened to cancel the order for the 320 total purchased T-80UDs and Ukraine began production of essential parts for this, this is how we ended up with the welded turret also shared with the T-84.
The lack of a IR spotlight usually does also hint to the feature of thermal sights, how it works and all specifically on T-80UD/DU-1s/BEs delivered to Pakistan is still a mystery to me but I’m 90% sure the vast majority do feature them as it was one military requirement for Pakistan.
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The TVD gets installed in tandem to the gunner’s day sight.
Afaik it doesn’t replace the nvd sight.
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Have they said anything about any of this being corrected?
I dont think anything will change. There’s hundreds of reports about chinese vehicles and none of them have been implemented.
im still seeing the T-80UD being called the 478BE in matches…
they didnt even change the name
There is one thing that continues to bother me with the T-80UD, both the Pakistani and the Russian one, and that is that everywhere you can look the T-80UD has better armor on both the turret and hull than the T-80U, and only the 1989 T-80U would have equal armor. In fact according to this image the T-80UD would have the armor of the 1986 T-80U, which should still be better armor than the base model T-80U.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TankPorn/comments/gq08aw/diagram_illustrating_the_armor_composition_of_the/#lightbox
T-80UD has worse armour in game
This tank need fix。
Yes, I read that comment below, but there are also other comments explaining that the T-80UD had more modern armor than the previous T-80U (the one in the game). So even though it has the armor that is in the game, it should be better than that of the T-80U in the game.
``The original 1985 variant is shown up there under T-80U, and the T-80U “1996” (also technically 1997, which is what I’ve considered it to be) was used on the T-80UD. The lower portion showing that of the T-80UD is incorrectly named as such as well as T-80U 1989.
The T-80UD was the first hull to utilize a slight space with NERA elements in 1987, and that was because of the new engine. Due to the implementation of the 6TD[F] engine, there had to be a slight redesign of the lower hull. The LFP of the vehicle itself was thus adjusted, and it caused a slight irregularity in the hull’s array. I’m personally not too sure what design influences were given to cause that gap, or why elements were changed due to that, but I do know that the engine itself is the reason for the difference.
This is NOT present on 1987 T-80Us, as they only integrate the 1987 T-80UD turret and not the hull.
As for the 1983-1985 hulls, those were standard. Starting in 1990 there were different patterns of hulls made to effectively utilize new materials. New production models were released alongside the T-72 '1990 (precursor to T-90) and the T-90 itself.´´
PS: The comment mentions the dates of the T-80s as 1996 and 1997, but I think that is an error in the comment. I imagine that it refers to the T-80s from 1986 and 1987.
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compared to soviet counterpart this thing is seriously undertiered if you compared it to T-80B the imbalance is very clear. Kontakt-5 Era, Gen 2 thermal, Commander sight gun control, T-80U series armour
+1, its armour and thermal sight doesnt equal to T-80B at all which only have T-80B series armour and kontakt-1 era
The T-80UD/DU-1 in-game currently has the same armour profile as the T-80UD, the T-80UD itself has inferior protection when compared to the T-80U. It also has the same reverse speed as the T-64BV, this is very detrimental at 10.7 as retreating is almost impossible unless you want to expose your rear side.
So no, it doesn’t have T-80U level of protection
but it is still superior to T-80B in armour layout, era and thermal it is only inferior at reversing
It has a much worse forward speed
i never denied the reverse speed