T-80B should be buffed or its br lowered

So no source, as i expected.

Yet you got nothing but some showcase T80B’s that has Agava sights, on the other hand many sources states it was a experimental feature for T80B and decided to use on T80U and even then it was rare sight for T80U’s.

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the M247 did work everything it had during its test is in game, the XP-50 was an actual plane that flew, now if it didn’t have weapons, then it should be removed. Just like they removed the paper german vehicles from the game.

No, you simpleton, the Roof of the Hull was fixed, after years of gaijin ignoring bug reports, there is a reason its Sloped at 81 - 82 degrees, and that is to bounce shots, this is something you will see on a majority of NATO vehicles, with competent engineering and people who actually care about the survival of their crews.

Oh i have already talked about this in the past, with a great deal of people, like you, who don’t seem to understand gaijin has done everything in their power to hand hold russia and give them advantages. What to know what else is sloped at 81 degrees? Gaijin still ignores armor holes and pixel errors where the rounds shouldnt be able to penetrate ever.
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None of these rounds should do anything…

Errors with Turret armor gaijin won’t fix. (youtube.com)

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… every export package is downgraded, everything Abrams in the game armor is nerfed after the m1ip…

Another example is F-20 tigershark, despite bein tested with all armaments,radar and FCS Gaijin decided to make it Premium vehicle Meanwhile Yak-141 placed in regular tech tree even tho it never had FCS and IRST.

Standart treatment from Gaijin, didnt surprised in slighest

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And Since the M1 Abrams gaijin has constantly nerfed the abrams so russian tanks can win. This should tell you something.

Hello,

I would firstly like to start by saying that to get high k/d rates takes more than just spawn camping. You need alot of knowlegde of the game, good reaction and aim and the proper vehicle. Just because you play a good vehicle doesn’t mean you will get +5 k/d on them .
Saying this I usually play for map control, and spawn camp after the enemy team has no presence in the map (Match is over).

Secondly, i wanted to 1x1 you since you were cocky enough to message me after the game when i didn’t even comment on the situation since it’s a random match. As it’s obvious i let you choose the map (wich wasn’t even balanced for one side and Rhine was what i put as default since its the default tournament map(most balanced)), and to pick the vehicle since a pure 1x1 skill duel should be taken in the same vehicle. Not only this, i noticed you didn’t have all the top tiers. But you still dodged and blocked me.

So please, don’t say someone is a bad player just because you killed them once in a random match.

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when?

dude, how can you tell that abrams suffers if you playing on it below average?

so you’re crying because the snail released an uncountering op tank and nerfed it to bring it into balance?

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they’ve nerfed the Abrams over 15 times since it came out, one of the most serious nerfs are spalling created. 3 of these issues come from spalling to the point where the Abrams create unneccesary spall when hit, that klls the entire crew, then the fuel tanks create even more spall each time they are hit, also created a shotgun effect that kills the entire crew, and when they added the effect that burns the engine when the ammo is hit and blowout panels activate.

Imagine nerfing a tank/ammo because someone elses tank is garbage.

i won’t get any proofs, of course.

rather nerf the tank due to its excessive efficiency. which abrams had when it came out for a very long time

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so you admit that the americans were winning only due to the superiority of their tanks characteristics, and not their skill?

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You literally were spawn camping, and had the nerve to chase me through my spawn and around the corner. If someone has to resort to spawn camping then i have little respect for them, unless you’re going to kill a spaa, going into someones spawn is bads sportsmanship. Its like going into low BRs with KV-1s with expert or aced crews.

Just like you were cocky enough to chase me around a mountain in my spawn? :)

I NEVER MIRROR in a 1v1 no matter what game im playing.

Wasting time and not picking a map, and talking like a a-hole, yeah im going to block you.

I only call spawn campers bad :)

To make this clear from the start: 10.3 is exactly where the T-80B belongs, so I’m not saying it should be lowered.

However, I do have to add that it’s mobility is notably worse than an M1 or Leo 2A4. It’s armour also isn’t substantially better than those two nor are it’s weakspots particularly small, the T-80B turret might be the weakest T-72/80/64/90 turret in the game.

Here’s a overview of it compared to other 10.3’s:

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Yes, of course you are getting spawn camped, your team lost full map control with no possibility of retake. I’m not gonna stand there and wait for a retake. It’s a PvP game, i play for the win.

Not mirroring in a 1x1 is the worst thing you can do. I can just choose a better vehicle and stomp you. It’s not fair.

And yes, i did select the map you requested and you kept wasting time not picking a vehicle.

But hey, i only call dodgers bad :)

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crazy you never show the ammo penetration in these graphs.

“LoS penetration at 60*”

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it doesnt auto richochet

Good thing this is a discussion thread not a suggestion thread.

IMO it’s quite a good tank and it should stay untouched.
As someone who has played a lot battles in it I can assure you it’s a gasp of fresh air compared to more armoured T-72B.

Also ahistorical and unlogical, as better reload of T-80U is due to better autoloader.
Though T-80U’s should have 6 seconds reload from manuals themselves.

Though as to make it more interesting they could make a module for “BV 1985”, where T-80B would take historical T-80BV performance by getting rid of thermals qnd getting same composite as T-80U, without any K-5 ofc.

can of worms…
otherwise nato tanks should get 5 sec reload as well (not just the abrums)