T-80B is genuinely unplayable at 10.7

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Thats true, I was also playing alot of 9.3 and all the time I faced 10.3s. However, there is a slight improvement you dont face the 2a4s and especially the most overpowered premium 2a4 at its previous br.10.3.

You still face other fast vehicles but they are not such a burden. If you play the Americans biggest problems you will face are TAMs, fast wheely boys, begleit, 2s38. Begleit, 2s38 and especially Ozelot, Gepard, Strela and Shilka are problematic for aircraft. Otherwise Soviet tanks at 10.3 and below are no big issues. For the Soviets its the fact that they also have to face big air resistance and now with the edition of OSA across the board it will make dropping bombs as I love on tanks even harder.

Biggest issue for Soviet tanks at br.9,3 is mobility and turret rotation.

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Of course they’ll still get bullied a bit, but it’s probably much better now than before, since the strongest members of the “bully squad” have been moved up in decompression.

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the biggest problem here is that almost every gam after rank 10 is uptier and it should not be… but lazy BR changes did this.

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9.3 Italy lineup is constantly playing against 2S38, Turms, BMP-2M…

If you try to put the only 9.7 SPAA into the lineup and maybe add the VRCC at 9.7 to it, then you’re also constantly uptiered to 10.7.

Not sure why we even bother with BRs at all, the Matchmaker will uptier you anyways.

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There is a simple method. Since the T-80B’s maneuverability makes it impossible to reduce its BR, I think we can remove its unhistorical thermal sight and add the same advanced frontal armor as the obj.292 to it. This will significantly improve its survivability against higher-ter tanks and maintain similar combat efficiency by reducing its ability to search enemies, while also making the game more historical. If I remember correctly, the relevant suggestions seemed to have been passed several years ago, but Gaijin did not take any action yet.

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Naaah I think if I play 10.3 or 9.7 I should play most of my games at that rank and not be uptired.
Theres reason why some tanks are 9.7 and others are 10.7… like again lazy BRs, until they keep doing this “how much each vehicle earn RP” thsi BRs will always be really bad.
And decompression is again lazy, bad and does nothing but just makes most of your games uptire.

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T-80B is a good tank.
Perfectly playable.

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Leopard 2a4 with monster mobility was a nightmare to face at 9.3 and still is now at 10.3 sometimes, Russian tanks are easy to flank and the -4 reverse makes them sitting ducks

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The OF-40 is also a bully lol my 9.0 instantly blows up getting shot by one of these thing, the only one that could bounce a hit is a hull down Chieftain MK10, my entire USSR 9.0 can’t take a hit from it.

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Can we agree on one thing, perhaps this notion of a full 1.0br match making should be changed to a maximum 0.7 uptier. In this way 9.3s and 9.0 can avoid leos, 2s38s, bmp2m. Turms (cannon fodder stuff hhaaha) is not that powerful in comparison to the above mentioned, 80ud is powerful but manageable.

I have all the super power nations, At 9.3 worst nightmare was the 2a4s premium non-premium whatever, then hard to deal with 2s38s, CV90-105 with new zoom, bmp2m can be powerful super fast. 80ud vs 9.3s is also powerful but manageable, turms easy pray. All the aa stuff ozoi -mozi, gepard- mepard, strela and shilka with missiles are nightmares for helis and planes.

On the American side KV-T boat stuff vs 9.3 way too powerful, Lav-ad vs planes fast cant predict it. Xm-1 use to be years ago powerful no longer the case, but it has now somewhat become viable. The premium M-60 AMBT can be super-powerful vs 9.0-9.3. ccvl and XM-8 vs 9.0 -9.3 are also powerful but can be easily delt with by bmd4 and bmp2s as well as bmp3.

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Good at ? Hahha easy pray, joking it can be good but that turret rotation and reload leaves a lot to be desired. Yes its good vs KVT but Leo not so sure.

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KVT and Leopard fire significantly worse rounds, and T-80B’s reload is fine.
Turret rotation is mitigated by better prep.

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Not so difficult to deal with 2A4 with 9.3 when it has less armor than any other 10.3 vehicle.

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Well yes T-80b has a much better round than the 2a4 and especially the KVT. But 2a4 bounces the 3bm42 quite a lot, yes I know the week spots but when 2a4 can get its gun faster on target and turret is more responsive its a challenge. But of course the 80b is well suited against the Loe2a4 more so than the KVT.

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Sure

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I would say that 2a4 has better armor than the M1 and slightly better survivability.

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Sounds like you genuinely suck at the game

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the whole point of him was that most like 90% of games are uptires… but yeah cant expect form everyone they know how to read.

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11.7 is a meta premium spam BR, so duh theres gonna be alot of uptiers.

Doesn’t really matter, if you can’t get any kills in an uptier with a vehicle as decent as the T-80B you suck. Sure there are some vehicles where a full uptier completely wrecks it. T-80B is not one of them

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If you dont know map you will have 0 kills
If you dont know spots you will have 0 kills
If you in 11.7 90% chance theres at least one guy walling, then you will also have 0 kills
If you run lower tier tank in uptire, mostly you will be in disadvantage and have 0 kills…

This game isnt made so that everyone playing it MUST be top tire player in the world. Also game sucks not people playing it…