T90m with the same aps was published on reddit
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Seems pointless when the make believe ERA performance makes these tanks immune to the missiles tested…Unless the ERA in reality cannot be trusted
You give every nation APS…Where does that leave vehicles that olnly have APS and are barely competitive? CR2 BN, Merkava 4M…
Gaijin is failing at balancing this game and now the best armoured performing tanks in the game will also have APS to go with all the other strengths they have?
At this point put the German/Swedish, Russian and American BR so much higher so Ariete, Leclerc, CR2/3 and others arent just a constant stream of food.
but without Nakidka MCS:
They coulda waited for it to get the Relikt UFP addon IRL
another top tier russian tank with 4km reverse YES PLEASE.
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When and where was that claim ever made by the concerned parties …
Besides ERA role has always been to degrade a threat , not to magically make it disapear.
It is for that reason that tanks didn’t give up on base armor when ERA appeared and for the same reason why tanks won’t give up on ERA now that hard kill APS has appeared .
The more layers of defence you have the better !
In game they are T-90M eat AGM-65s
Why have an APS system if your armour isnt at risk?
Or maybe this APS system will lead to Gaijin modeling Russian ERA correctly…Ha ha
Hope it get’s a tier 4 obr.2025 ugrade ( like the UBH for the T-72B3 ) with Relikt UFP and the full updated package of ERA . It would be silly otherwise .
I’m sure in 7-8 years Gaijin will introduce him into the game. When he will be useless.
Is it?
What makes you think a T-90M with Relikt could not withstand an AGM-65 ? It all depends where and how it hits …
I am afraid you are confused on many things and you try to derive conclusions out of all this confusion.
Again additional layers of defence doesn’t mean that the pre-existing layers were bad … or does in your own logic the fact of M1 SepV3 adopting Trophy APS means that the base armor could not withstand RPG-7 ? I hope you see why what you are trying to conclude makes no sense whatsoever .
You are right on one point. Relikt might need some remodeling but that stands true for all ERA in the game as giving them fixed values of protection is blatantly wrong.
Thing is im not sure those changes would go into the direction that you have in mind as Relikt is vastly underperforming against most KE and CE threats in the game !
Alas that is not a discution for this thread so i will leave it here .
Do your eyes have a problem? Not anything from the Reddit is true, my guys.
This is how 4K 3D model rendered.
No it doesnt sorry stop believing this game. There is countless footage of T-90M catastrophically detonating from atgms and fpv drones.
In game Russian tanks do not need an APS system as the Relikt ERA is a catch all system.
RPG-7s are not a threat to modern MBTs even Challenger 2s laughable armour can handle an RPG-7
Reject T-72B3
Embrace T-72B2
As there is countless of footage of T-90M surviving multiple HEAT stikes or even Javelin …
Again don’t take your personal bias for a fact , there is no black and white , results depend on circumstances , so unless you have detailed reports on each of those cases there is nothing you can conclude about them .
I have no bias, what I’m very much against is Gaijin claiming NERA armour used on NATO tanks offering the protection value of rubber.
But 2 plates sandwiched together offer incredible performance for KE and CE…
T-72B2MA XD
B2 : Relikt UFP
M : Modernised ERA package
A : Active protection .
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That would be amazing to see, and quite hilarious.
At this point though, the T-90M is the successor to the T-72B2… And, yknow…
Its interesting. Don’t really have a place for it in any lineups, but it is neat to see