T-72B3A (Arena-M): 4-Lines of Defense

It’s fairly recent, yes.

It should be able to get the modifications, iirc it gets a few different ones.

Reverse speeds are needed to get back behind cover when taking shots, 4km reverse means you are exposing yourself literally seconds longer than other tanks. For hull down spots this means your breach/turret are exposed for longer after firing, for peeking around corners or sides of hills this means your hull is exposed for longer. Its not just a detriment for getting in bad positions, it makes good positions worse to play in.

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Does the publisher of the bug report want to nerf it or buff it ?

Not really you all drive towards the spawn get hit and then need to reverse behind a hill.

That is the only reason players prefer the BVM to the T-90M

Nope, using buildings, terrain for cover. Any time you have to shoot an enemy, you’re exposing your vehicle to return fire. And reverse speeds are critical for moving in and out of cover. Dealing damage and covering before anyone can respond.

Its like saying the Type 10 autoloader is only good if you overextend. No, its good all the time, in every situation.

Players prefer the BVM because its a clear upgrade. As are the T-80U’s.

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Im aware, however players tend to be more concerned with reverse speed when they start to take fire.

You sit at the back of the map and snipe thay reverse speed doesnt matter as much.
But when you are spawn camping and trying to abuse 3rd person peeking then yes fast reverse is more relevant.

Its just as important sniping to avoid counterfire

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Rate of fire is very different from mobility.
Type 10 can be just as effective close as short range.

Its a choice to rush forward in a T-90/T-72 you could play more cautiously but players dont so they just state the T-72 and 90 are bad.

Sniping reverse speed is important, not when you are supporting your team though and the other team is dealing with multiple tanks infront of them.

You should play CR2 if you want to snipe its slow to reach the berm and to reverse back into cover

Its nothing to do with rushing forward. Holding any sight line, 10kph reverse speed is more powerful than 4 kph.

I play them pretty regularly, fun tanks

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Dude thats how Russians play, they rush forward.

Fun tanks they are ok would you swap your CR2 for a T-80BVM?

Because it works against premium US/Germany players.

Any competent players can easily counter that kind of playstyle.

People do it because it works.

Sure, I like the mixup in style

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Yes because Russian tanks are fast they are low profile enough and the maps give them just the perfect amount of cover to do so.

Anyway the T-72 and 90M with Arena will be good.
Not having a reverse speed isnt a huge deal breaker with the armour and protection these tanks will have

Nah, its just because the enemy have woeful situational awareness

Works all the same with tanks like the Leclerc and Type 10’s

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I just explained why it does

Unless your idea of sniping is just sitting with your turret exposed constantly which is a very VERY bad idea.

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They’ll be solid tanks, but still overall downgrades to the 11.7 T-80’s.

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Publisher of the bug report ( me ) doesn’t use terms like nerf or buff , i want it to be historically accurate which it isn’t . Vertical +40 is incorrect , Arena-M offers full + 90 vertical coverage per multiple primary sources incl chief designer of the APS .

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I am just hoping it’s not a premium lol we don’t need any more top tier prem Russian MBT’s.

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