Why? The Russian ones never go to a higher BR despite being buffed, having better armor, benefitting from volumetric, ERA always working as if it’s hit at extreme angles, getting vastly more modern ammo to fire, and so on and on.
T-64B is going to the moon in BR rn
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Because it got buffed massively, has better armor than tanks at 10.7 and fires a shell that has close to 60mm more pen than DM23 which many of them are forced to use.
Seriously, Russian tanks at lower BR have better shells and armor than tanks vastly higher. Oh and a faster reload too. For the same reload speed you need AN ACE CREW.
No.
Only for Germany, everyone else is faster even with just expert
It literally does have better armor than the 2A4. Especially given the higher pen it faces. Also, does that mean Germany needs a reload buff according to you?
I disagree with your assessment of @Morvran . While he is obviously a “UK Main”, I have not seen him advocate for unfair buffs for UK vehicles, nor unfair nerfs for vehicles outside of the UK tree. Maybe there is an instance I missed, but I have only seen him call for changes that are reasonable and deserved, regardless of which country’s vehicle is being discussed.
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Not only that, but on multiple occasions he has disagreed with my opinions, even when I have advocated for “nerfs” to non UK vehicles which would help his “main” country. (And I almost always end up agreeing with his dissent against my initial opinions after I have thought about it for a while.)
@Morvran is one of the most reasonable and logical posters on these forums that I have encountered.
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Which can’t be said for Renzo. So I wholly agree.
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2A4 isn’t the only tank at 10.7
Because that doesn’t affect the T-64B at higher BRs? Anyway if you want a laugh it’s going to be the same BR as the T-80UD
makes total sense
It was the 120 M1s getting a 5 sec reload for no reason that caused all this creep in the first place
screw it
why not at this point?
So, is your argument then that a tank with worse pen, worse armor, etc should go down rather than the T64 and co go up?
if you think the 2A4 is a worse or similar tank to the T-64B that’s a you problem
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So a tank that has better armor according to GJN, has roughly 50+mm extra pen, reloads much faster unless it’s facing a commander buffed ACE CREW, is much worse because it goes 4~ km/h slower at max speed?
No seriously, beyond “Muh gun depression” which isn’t even true since the gun depression over sides/back nerf what are the big advantages. Any time it’s brought up the argument is always some nebulous bs rather than actual numbers.
The 2A4 is more than twice as fast as the T-64B.
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Yes it should lol. The reload buff puts them miles ahead of the competition.
twice as fast?
Take a look at T-72B3 Arena-E, it is nearly twice as slow, and T-64B has even less hp/t, so its not unreasonable to think T-64B is more than twice as slow.
You should say its acceleration is worse, as speed it’s top line is 60 kmph
and it’s not too shabby the T64B, the leopard 2a4 is the 7th most mobile MBT in game, even beating the MSC so it’s not really a right comparison.
The T64B isn’t supposed to be as mobile :D A good 10.3 none the less though
I wouldn’t say so. It feels pretty dead at 10.3, overshadowed by the more mobile NATO MBTs and the T-80UD is right there.
It’s better than the T72B and B1989 in every way bar armour. It’s optics and reload put it above them.
T80UD was a 10.7 tank before they buffed the reload on it.
The T64B as a great round and a 6 second reload.
Pretty low bars.
i mean they are 10.3 ? xD
What nato MBT absolutely blows it out the water at 10.3? the CR1 and TTD are great but that’s about it.