they’re gigatrash in RB too
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Object 435 in AB is just a breech repair simulator
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Yeah it’s really bad. All the shrinking in size makes it less capable than even the T-55A. Can’t do popshots because the tank is too short, and cannot survive a shot. Ah yeah it has one niche which is the 120mm armor, which makes it somewhat resistant to T-54 1947’s APHE at long range (does anyone ever purely use the BR-412D?)
The T-55A also reloads faster.
The T-55AMD is probably the best T-55 variants at 8.7, you can deny helicopter ATGMS by just looking at their direction, you can also drive forward and disrespect the rocket rats like the ush405 and raketepoopsautomate or any ATGM carrier and watch them wasting ammo as you get closer and closer lol
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The T-55AMD can stop recoilless rocket rounds?
Yes, it can even stop slow lobbing 152mm APHE in long range, but you will still catch the splash damage, mostly nothing major like machine gun damage or barrel turning yellow.
I dunno, in GRB I had a blast with the 435, it’s quite good. I don’t play arcade, but I don’t see how the playstyle would be different there considering the 435 has better mobility than the T-62 (as well as a rangefinder and 14.5mm HMG)
I will agree 435 in GRB is great. However T-62 doesnt deserve 8.7, at GRB for sure, it’s by some things worse than T-55A (worse reload, speed, armor, lack of heavy machine gun), IMO should be 8.3
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I feel most 8.x tanks suffer more from compression than from actually being bad tanks.
It was tiered 8.3 back then. The T-62 was a beast in 2018 before the light tanks craze.
I’d say both tanks are bad tbh. Survival in APFSDS era is not about armor but speed and crew placement, which the T-62 happen to suffer in. Well at least the 435 is faster.
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Fair enough. The T-62 needs to be downtiered to 8.3 just like it was back then. It can’t compete with all these light tanks like TAM (TAM has way better survivality than the T-62)
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The 434 is less terrible because of speed
That’s the compression issue, though. At 8.3 I feel it would be much better than something like the M48A2C but at 8.7 it’s worse than something like the T-55AMD and slightly worse than the T-55M.
The T-62 and M48A2 G A2 are pretty comparable imo, one has a stabilizer and the other has a much better dart.
T-62? the T-55M has access to one of the best APFSDS in that br, feels like its not even close, the T-55M completely outclassed the T-62 in terms of firepower and having a much better FCS. I don’t even want to trade fire with it when playing the object 279.
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8.7 is a funny spot for compression. There’s a pretty wide gap between the strongest and weakest 8.7 MBTs, primarily along the lines of which tanks have LRFs and which don’t. Things like the T-62/Obj 435/Chieftains/M60 RISE have worse firepower and/or mobility compared to the better 8.7s, all for armor which is almost completely irrelevant in the current meta. The only 8.7 MBTs with any level of useful armor are the T-55AM1 (And AMD), which are also better in mobility and have LRFs.
Not saying they need to be 8.3, it’s just another instance of compression.
And just go up so slightly .3 then the firepower is night and day difference lol T-62M1 3BM28 possibly performing better than the one being used on the first Abrams which is a 10.3 (soon to be 10.7), then we have the T-69IIG with comparable apfsds and M60TTS also uses the same ammunition as the first Abrams, now we can see that the T-55AM/AMD firepower is in no way comparable to everything .3 above except for the ability to fire ATGM. German Leopard A1A1 also has sub-200mm angle pen ammunition, Chieftain MK10 also firing one of the best ammunition in its respective br
I’d also say Cheftian Mk 10 is pretty good in AB. 120mm APFSDS seems to do much better damage than the 115mm. Also the turret is crazy good.
The Mk 10 isn’t the one I was talking about, I was talking about the two 8.7 ones, the Mk 3 and 5.
Those two rely on APDS which is at best equivalent to the average dart round of the tier, but with a longer than average reload, and armor which can bounce some poorly aimed APDS, but nothing stronger than that. Even 90mm HEAT eats you alive.
The Mk 10 is the only good tech tree Chieftain, IMO. The addition of the Stillbrew armor pack, which can eat a lot of darts you’re going to be seeing, as well as the LRF, make it far more comfortable in the hulldown sniper role the other two Chieftains were trying to fill.
It’s a mass produced tank and in game it faces prototypes and other tanks that are 10-15 years newer. It’s to be expected