Of course, Type 69 isn’t a main battle tank at battle rating 8.0 (realistic battles) with two-axis stabilization.
On God you can go even further if you remember that Centurion is a main battle tank, the earliest far from what I know main battle tank with two-axis stabilization is the Centurion Mk. 2 at battle rating 6.7;
Talking about stabilized tanks facing WW2, the problem isn’t the vehicle itself, is Gaijin forcing WW2 tanks at a higher battle rating.
It should’ve stopped at battle rating 6.7, but no: that one vehicle battle rating 1.7 higher than my T34 Heavy Tank should not go lower in battle rating, which it’s impossible to me have a match with or against said vehicle.
Is there any battle rating 7.0 WW2 tank? Except post-war prototypes and the Gaijin wonder weapons? I’ve looked into the tech tree at realistic battles battle rating and if the T-55A were battle rsting 8.0 it would never face a WW2.
Doesn’t really matter, does it? The game doesn’t work like this. T-55AM was too good because of its tendency to be downtiered into easy 7.7-8.7 games. It was once 8.3, and this was even worse.
Well IT DOES, T-62M has some 410mm penetrating sabot, 115mm smoothbore gun much better than the 100mm rifled and also slightly better armor, also you seem to forget how weak the sabot of the T-55 is.
APHE has the most consistent chances of one shoting tanks in game, unless you factor in giant HE shells. Tanks from 8.0 to 9.7 strip off the bulkier armor of lower BR’s for thinner plates. This is because of the fact that for decades of tank design sub caliber and HEAT weaponry dominated the battlefield and there wasn’t a practical way to mass produce vehicles that could defend against that yet. So, tanks generally lowered armor values and increased angles to try and make up for the cuts to material quantity to save weight. I have rarely ever had the APCBC shell not penetrate what I intended to shoot with the T-55A. Can APCBC richocet off of angled armor, yeah if you shoot the wrong spot at the wrong time, just like any other shell in game. Most tanks from 7.3 - 9.3 are thin skinned enough that APCBC will work perfectly fine, with plent of frontal hull and turret spots to pierce. Hell its a meme at this point in war thunder to just shoot the massive cupolas that many tanks have and one tap them. Thats a weakspot that is really hard to defend and not expose. The M103, T32, T32E1, M47, M48, M60, M60A1 (AOS), and M60A3 TTS all have these same weaknesses. The AMX-30, AMX-32 (105), AMX-32, AMX-30 SUPER, Leopard 1, Leopard A1A1, Leopard A1A5, OF-40, STB-1, Type - 74C, E, F, G, Centurion Mk. 3, 10, Shot Kal, Magachs and all other top teir MBTs that I failed to list can easily be penned by the T-55A’s APCBC from the front on bothe the hull front, and the turret. While occasional bounces amd richocets occur due to pure RNG, the main issues of failure is player error (assuming you are experiencing many “non-penetrations”). I have had my fair share of bounces due to RNG, and while its annoying asf when it happens, especially in a scenario with high stakes, it happens to literally everyone.
Also, for those that complain about shell shattering occuring on the T-55A, you have an extremely wide array of shell types. If Sabot is shattering a lot for you switch to a different round, or practice aiming at non-problematic spots on enemy armor.
Well, T-55AM-1 and T-55AMD-1 have a great missle tho. Has beam riding guidance and good velocity while penning a shitton and having amazing post-pen. I literally run it as main ammo and use the APFSDS only for long range shots. You can even overpressure some vehicles with the missle, I can’t tell how many times I killed someone because they thought just poking out their roof was gonna save them.
Wow, okay way to be nice.
But if anything, yes, the downtiers to 7.7 are a bit unfair if anything, decompression is needed. And I’m pretty decent in it because 2kd would say so.
You can pretty easily one shot everything with 3BM25, BR-412D squeezed in viability when the T-55 reload ran over 8.5/9 seconds, it’s since been buffed and it’s slower but still competitive against L7 reloads
afaik 3BM8 is the round that shatters and that’s the stock round, hard to recommend using something else when they might not even have it unlocked yet.
I mean getting stock 3BM8 is still better than what a lot of tanks get to start with. I mean the M60A1 (AOS) is stock with APDS (granted it has better angle performance than 3BM8). Then you unlock Heat-FS and HESH, one of those is extremely inconsistent, and the other has been trash for years now. You get one of the widest ammo selections of any tank in game in the T-55A. Yeah you dont get APCBC right away. No one gets their best shells right away unless thats the only shell the tank has. Starting with a stock APDS round is much better than what other tanks get. I mean imagine some of the poor guys grinding stock APCR. Once again, the T-55A is a good vehicle.
M728 is one of the best APDS shells in the game, only beaten by L15A3 on the Chieftain (no the Conqueror’s is not good), both have the same modifiers that make them vastly better than M392A2/3BM8 etc. against sloped armour and almost immune to shattering.
I don’t think I’ve said otherwise, it’s a fine vehicle.
Ok…but besides HEAT-FS and HESH, those are the only offensive shells the M60A1 AOS gets. M728 has superior angle penetration than 3BM8, its not like 3BM8 is useless for a stock shell though, it works perfectly fine I used it regularly against Heavy tanks last night and one or two shot most vehicles. You get a wide variety of shells in the T-55A, the M60A1 is stuck with an APDS shell and HEAT. In a 1v1 I’m putting my money on the T-55A coming out on top. The APHE it gets pens the huge turret ring, various soft spots on the turret face, and the giant cupola on the M60A1 AOS usually resulting in a onehit KO. If you’re stock, the 3BM8 goes through the same spots and can horribly mess up the target if it doesn’t oneshot them. Once again, placing the T-55A at 8.0 will mess up the entire ground balance for 7.0. 7.0 is effectively the new 6.7. Having a stabilized APHE and APFSDS slinger with near impenetrable armor (with anything that uses APCBC at 7.0, which is most tanks at the BR) would be a balancing shit show. T-54s rock at that BR already. Now give them a stabilzer, better ammo, and a faster turret traverse? Thats crazy. The T-55O is already kinda problematic, but i dont see anyone really play it thankfully, and thats because it doesnt get APFSDS, so no one wanted it. But its gross for an 8.0. All i can say is sitting here whining that the T-55A should be a lower BR doesn’t change the fact that at 8.3 (to the best of our knowledge) its 1.05 to 1 with its peers, and it wins exactly 50% of it’s matches. Thats peak balance. Will it struggle against some vehicles in specific situations? Yes, every tank has those problems. I recommend (this is genuinely meant as friendly advice), that if you know someone with decent to good stats in it, you watch them play it and compare what they do vs what you do. Hell, I could play it and stream it to you to show you what I do generally when I play. Its no skin off my nose. I recently started coaching people in my squadron in simulator to practice good playing habits for RB, i think I’m decent at explaining.
