T-44 (FM) BR Reduction

The title of this topic explains everything in only few words, the T-44 (FM) simply needs to be moved down. The vehicle compared to the base T-44-85 has extremely worse armour and the firepower is debatably worse with the removal of BR-367P and all for a slight BR difference of 0.3.

The gun is incredibly underwhelming for BR (it was good at 5.7 on the T-34 but not 6.3 on the T-44 First Mod) and the armour is extremely lacklustre when compared to the base T-44-85. The mobility is furthermore worse and the vehicle is larger in silhouette when compared to other T-44s in-game (excluding the 122 variant).

This makes the T-44 (FM) very unfun to play with and straight up unbalanced (for YOU) in some scenarios as well - the Tiger II (H) is a absolute nightmare to face against in this thing and it doesn’t have the armour like the base T-44-85 to make up for this.


Solution? Simple

Move the T-44 (FM) down to 6.0 (worse of the two choices imho)

Or

Buff the reload to around 6 seconds or 5 seconds and give it BR-367P

Or you could always neglect this vehicle and move it up in BR due to only good players using it

The T-44 (FM) really shouldn’t have the exact same reload minus a millisecond as the Tiger II whilst having a FAR inferior main weapon, that being the D5-T.


TLDR; The T-44 (FM) is a weak vehicle for 6.3 and needs to be balanced in some way

  • Move Down To 6.0
  • Buff Reload and Add BR-367P
  • It’s Fine At 6.3
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Both the T-44 (FM) and T-44-85 against PzGr 39/43 fired by the Tiger II

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Honestly, both the reload should be buffed and the tank should go down to 6.0 without Br-367P

Russia has no true fast firing medium tank (eg. Sherman 76, Charioteer, Sherman Firefly) at that BR and this would fill the gap

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I think it could get BR-367 removed and a reload buffed to 7.0s aced and move down to 6.0. Although i’m pretty sure you’re supposed to be using BR-365 regardless lol.

i’m pretty sure you’re supposed to be using BR-365 regardless lol

This would be true for the T-34-85 (which doesn’t get 367 anyways) but not for the T-44 (FM), you need as much penetration you can get and especially with those nasty 7.0 games - 130mm of RHA penetration simply doesn’t cut it at 6.3.

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if anything the standard T44 should be moved up. its extremely well armoured for a 6.7 medium and very punchy in firepower

It has good armor but poor firepower for its current battle rating, it just like a M4A3E2 Jumbo, 75 mm to be specific.

For instance it can’t penetrate consistently the Tiger II (H) on the front of the turret as most but not all tanks or any other vehicle at its battle rating change can. Neither counter a T34 Heavy Tank in the most of its weak spots.

T-44 First Model has only one thing in advantage compared to the T-44-122 — improved side upper armor with additional RHA plates.

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Ideally 6s (or 5.9s) aced for the T-44(FM), with or without the Br-367 as it doesn’t make a huge difference

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A Soviet tank with a 6 second reload would actually be pretty nice and especially with the good mobility the T-44 (FM) has, at least then it would have something going for it - basically a somewhat armoured M18.

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Yup, that’s precisely what I was thinking, something inbetween an M18 and an M4A# 76

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I don’t think there is any point in moving it down as Russia has no line up at 6.0, so it will have to be used at 6.3 anyway, or with 5.7 back up vehicles

T-44 FM, Su-100, BTR-ZD + La-9, Yak-9UT

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Your stats show:
59% win ratio and 67 deaths for 205 kills.

Sorry but looks like the tank is perfectly fine in 6.3 .

That’s entirely skill rather than the tank being good, this is why I don’t measure a tanks performance by KDR.

Most of those games were also at 12.0 funnily enough (I was messing around), should it go up to 12.0 now?

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Does it really matter though. A little bit more pen but realistically next to none with any sort of lean.

Maybe because more than half the German players play like 80 years old men with legal blindness. You can’t even put a dent frontally into most heavies while even in the slightest uptier, you can get lolpenned almost anywhere. The T-44 FM is literally no different than a T-34-85 in its own capabilities and the BR-367 means jackshit when it’s barely different compared to the BR-365 (you lose angled performance in exchange for flat pen that never comes into play, because any armored part is either atleast 180mm thick or angled af). A Sherman does the same as a T-44 FM (and I’d argue even the T-34-85) literally better and it’s only 5.7 (atleast the absolute best version).

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Or maybe the allies fanboys are retarded and dond stop crying about tanks dont need more low BRs…

And let me tell you something. This game is more your fav nation vs germany. The last thing we need is a spam of T-44 vs 5.0 tanks.

The last thing we need is a spam of T-44 vs 5.0 tanks

BP vehicles never get spammed and the T-44 (FM) especially as it’s basically just a over glorified T-34-85 (D5-T).

Both the T-44 FM and the T-44 are over-tiered. They should go down in br, or the Tiger 2 H and its counterparts should go up to 7.0/.3

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Right now ? only according to very biased people.

HAHAHAHAHAHA.

The FM will get easily penetrated frontally by 5.0 tanks through its driver port(86mm), mantlet and cupola.
The basic T-44 was balanced at 6.3 and the Vk can one-shot it by shooting the cupola if the mantlet checks would be such a hard target to hit.

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