Re: the Challenger, I remember there being a big kerfuffle several years ago about how its turret slew rate was inaccurate, but the document somebody provided to prove it turned out to be classified.
While not necessarily nowadays (after all, the project was cancelled), the Comanche would fit into the category back in the day, and probably still is (at least until it’s declassified.)
I don’t understand this leap in logic that any prototypes that ultimately weren’t adopted/developed further must automatically be propaganda pieces.
My objection isn’t to the “not adopted/developed further” part. I’m just saying that because they are still classified and there’s no combat usage to allow the developers to make educated guesses, modern prototypes like the Armata and Comanche can’t be implemented accurately.
Exactly my point
im fine, in fact supportive of us delaying adding this until we have info
however once we have info we must add it.
How many with turret on?
all of them have the turret on but its only 20 of them and only a few are completely functional
20!!!
around 12 kind of working rn
mfw the Ch’ŏnma-2 is doing better than this. still +1
cheonma 2 its probably mostly propaganda and its a lot cheaper too so take that into account, russian media its overhyping the T-14 armata when it probably wont enter full on production considering numerous factors like price and viability
Do I need to tell you that happens to each military vehicle that isnt just a car out there?
Especially with how some tanks are overhyped whole other better ones are in shadow.
i mean yeah but this has been overhyped for a decade already
Not like other vehicles that have been overhyped for decades.
average european joint project
few milliards dollars were wasted and zero built :))
Not to confuse it, 20 we’re built But only around 12 are kind of operational and 3 are fully operational after fixing the issues with the engine but it’s already too late and expensive for Russia, and if You mean the MGCS i havent got anything yet since it’s still in planning phase and we havent seen a fully official build other that demonstrators, also another thing the T-14 engine couldnt run for much due to the issues it had nad just some T-14 got their engine issues solved
So at last we get a look into T-14 autoloader. Its very reminiscent of Obj 195´s -as been speculated for many years- but its a different design.
So, ammunition capacity in the end is 31 in the carrousel. There may be up to 9 more rounds stored in the turret bustle. RoF is of course unknown but I think it should be comparable to AZ/MZ types.
maybe if they added abrams newer than 1997 we could talk. To many top tier tanks that way to behind in tech to even compete with these vehicles.
SEP models ingame currently are much newer than that
no they are not, sure the era is new but the tanks themselves have no new armor. In reality if you look at the later sep v2s circa 2008 they have extra composite new optics and ammo along side Trophy aps.
v
The abrams specifically the sep series is the earliest models of each. When we look at the leopard 2a7v is a more modern 2a7 outfitted and put in service in 2018 compared to the 2a7s in 2014 being older models.
