Swiss hornets loadouts

I believe there was already a report on it, unless im confusing it with one of the other swiss aircraft

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Only for the F-5
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We should get it for the F-18C too

I wrote reports on all three affected aircraft:

The one for the Hornet (still open) could be fleshed out a bit more, with more supporting images.

Edit: added some more images to my Hornet report, plus link to a official document by the Swiss Government which clearly states the AIM-9X replacing the obsolete AIM-9P…

We don’t have that many aircraft ans missiles. Our Missile era started with the AIM-9B, later we got the AIM-9E, then AIM-9P3, -4 and-5, and now finally the AIM-9X, AIM-120B and AIM-120C. Plus the AIM-26 on the Mirages and AGM-65B on Hunters and F-5F…

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There is Schindibee’s report on it but it hasn’t been forwarded

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/nvKnRrFumOvr

It has now.

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Muuuuuch appreciated!!! = )

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yeeee

Funny how we got ignored, lol

So are you guys going do deal with the asymmetry of the premium FA-18C in German TT and the FA-18C Early? It seems to me that the American premium hornet is at a vast disadvantage, same airframe, same br, but the American Hornet lacks missiles with IRCCM (compared to AIM-9P5), only has half the countermeasures, and has inferior engine and radar. Either that the two have to equate or the Swiss hornet has to go up in br, or else it would be unfair to the game.

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ATM it has no AIM-9P-5.

There have been discussions about the usage of Swiss developped Low Drag Pylons, and rejected bug reports about them.

What I saw now is that indeed the F/A-18C late DOES have the Low Drag Pylons in WT, but implemented exactly the other way round than how they can be used IRL.

In reality, the LDP’s are used to carry one single AIM-9 or AIM-120 on the outer underwing stations (stations 2 and 9):

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Another possibility to carry AAM’s are the dual launchers, which are carried on the Standard underwing pylons. So far, in Switzerland I’ve only seen them used in connection with AIM-120’s:

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And of course a mix of the two methods is possible and documented with photos:

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Sadly however, Gaijin has done it exactly opposite on the Swiss Hornets:

  • F/A-18C early: can only carry AIM-9L on dual rails with normal pylons
  • F/A-18C late: as early, but in addition can carry AIM-120 on dual rails, but on LDP, which is not possible IRL and leads to clipping error in WT.

It’s almost as if they had the pieces from a model kit, but no instructions to know what to put where, hehe.

See also this report about AIM-120’s clipping into the flaps, exactly because the dual launchers are mistakenly mounted on the Low Drag Pylons instead of the standard pylons.

Comparison:
║ = Standard Pylon, 〡= Low Drag Pylon
Orange: configurations documented IRL, missing in WT
Red: configurations not possible IRL, but implemented in WT

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Sadly, the low-drag pylons are useless because as far as I am aware, pylon drag is not modelled, only the munitions themselves. At least, for the moment.

Thats correct. Pylons have no drag in WT. Visual correctness is still welcome

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