Well, there’s also those who would want such things for historical authenticity. For the same reason I’d love to see Gaijin add the AIM-9P-5 to the Swiss Hornets.
Right now, not a single weapon modelled in-game for the Swiss F/A-18C Early was ever used by the Swiss Air Force, if we don’t consider other stores (fuel tanks, ATFLIR).
Frankly, the best way to implement the Swiss Hornets would have been to go with an early variant with 9P-5’s and 120B’s, maybe at 13.3, and then (maybe later only, when WT is ready for 9X), a late variant with 9X and 120C plus HMS at 14.3 or higher, depending on what they will do with the advanced missiles…
Swiss Air Force did trials. There are no pictures of these trials. And I agree, of course, possibly never came into use. Like lot of other things GJ implemented on the Swiss Hornets ;-)
The following content may not be related to this topic. According to the standards you mentioned, may I ask where the AMRAAM for the F20 and the Magic 2 for the Mig23ML are addressed? These were raised in the Issue section but were all rejected. They fully align with your viewpoint: as long as a vehicle can launch and use a weapon (i.e., technically compatible), that weapon can be considered for use on an aircraft. Whether a weapon is owned or held in inventory by a particular country is not a necessary condition. If needed, I’d be happy to provide links to the Issues.
Forgot about that one, was about to amend my comment.
Though that one is a special case because it’s an incomplete prototype shoehorned into the tree because they didn’t want to give the viggen d its correct loadout for some reason.
Both of these are balance considerations that would impact the BR of the respective vehicles.
Considered =/= guaranteed to come simply because they are compatable. There may be other considerations, such as the above mentioned, why they wont come.
I understand that some vehicles cannot be equipped with better or more advanced weapons due to the need to match their Battle Rating (BR). However, this also presents a paradox: why can’t we increase the Battle Rating (BR) to allow these vehicles, which could benefit from more advanced weapons, to have a second chance to shine?
Because in many cases, they wont shine. The F-20 for example suits its BR comfortably. Should it be given ARH missiles, it needs to go up in BR were it becomes far less comfortable from an airframe and flight performance perspective.
Similarly with the MIG-23, they suit thier current positions very well. A Magic would only complicate that and is also very out of place in any of the standard researchable variants.
Thank you for your response. While I don’t fully agree with your reasoning, your answer has been sufficient for me to understand the developers’ perspective. Thank you! (For example, the F20 is well-suited to its Battle Rating (BR). Personally, I believe the F18A and Mig-21 Bison are strong opponents, but clearly, they shouldn’t be on the same level.)
Now a Hornet C with 120 countermeasures, AIM-120s but no HMD, why does that sound so familiar…oh wait: F-18C (Sweden) | War Thunder Wiki
And guess what? it’s 14.0! So if you seriously think a Hornet with amraams would be below 14.0, let alone 12.7-13.0, than I’m not sure if that is still cope or just straight delusion.
Is it possible for the Swiss F/A-18 early to get Flz Lwf LL 63/91 (AIM-9P-5) instead of AIM-9L? It’s a pretty unique Swiss modification and currently none of the new Swiss aircraft use it. Especially since it’s what the F/A-18 early would have used, since it’s prior to the introduction of AIM-9X.
The one for the Hornet (still open) could be fleshed out a bit more, with more supporting images.
Edit: added some more images to my Hornet report, plus link to a official document by the Swiss Government which clearly states the AIM-9X replacing the obsolete AIM-9P…
We don’t have that many aircraft ans missiles. Our Missile era started with the AIM-9B, later we got the AIM-9E, then AIM-9P3, -4 and-5, and now finally the AIM-9X, AIM-120B and AIM-120C. Plus the AIM-26 on the Mirages and AGM-65B on Hunters and F-5F…
