F/A-18C (Early) Missing AIM-120A // Gaijin.net // Issues
When the American F/A-18C first came out, I made a similar bug report and received similar treatment lol.
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But this is what you wrote earlier:
So compatible means open to consideration.
I know the AIM 9 X (no matter the Block) is way to good for air to air rn and will change the game, once it’s implemented (bc basically unflarable)
I think the main confusion here comes from the observation that those missiles that are considered too powerful in air to air usage (AIM-9X, IRIS-T) are actually coming to the game as SAM’s, and this at a much lower BR (12.0) than they would have in air (at least 14.0, probably higher).
this is not my point here.
That part ist juust to show that I understand it not being implemented for air to air uses (or air to ground)
Im afriad your misunderstanding.
Just because it is compatable, that does not mean its under automatic consideration to add.
AIM-9X is naturally not under consideration anytime soon. So merely because somethings compatibility is possibile, doesn’t mean it will come. (Even when we reach a stage where AIM-9X may be something in game).
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A Hornet is a Hornet. Technically they can use all of the same stuff as one another. Whether or not a nation bought/built the capability for the plane to use the weapons should determine if they get the weapons or not.
Otherwise just make every Hornet the same regardless of nation.
Where was this attitude when the Veak AA for Sweden lost its VT shells?
Or really for any change to any vehicle?
If it wasnt so frustrating it would be amusing to watch Gaijin dance all over fence of historical vs balance.
I get not adding a single weapon that would throw out the whole balance of the game.
BUT
Gaijin did literally just that when they added long range air to ground missiles when the current Anti Air had no hopes of countering them.
So basically, Gaijin does as Gaijin wants. Regardless of game balance or historical accuracy.
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Its precisely because of game balance that AIM-9X is not coming this major. Which is what the context here in my answer was about.
Better question would be if eurofighters and gripens will get access to aim 120c5
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Where was this attitude for the KH-38MT?
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What were the devs thinking when they introduced the Kh-38? It came too early to the game, and these new AAs are not looking like they are going to change that.
Are the rules different for ground? Do ground players have to deal with things they can’t counter?
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It is worth noting, while the Swiss Hornet is missing the low drag pylon, currently no pylons have drag so not using the “high” drag pylon would only reduce your weapon load
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Gaijin try not to screw over US jets challenge level impossible
Yes, let’s give it the Finnish Hornet treatment
Yes, there is a point. The pylon allow the installation of AIM-9s and AIM120B on all Pylon, which with its current config isn’t possible. Or are you able to mount an AIM120 on wingtips?
To my knowledge, the low drag pylon does not allow wingtip AIM-120s, unless you have a picture you would like to share of this.
Here a photo of an interesting loadout of a Swiss Hornet (photo shared with explicit permission of the photographer, Marc Wenger):
The aircraft is shown here on Airbase Meiringen during a repetition course in 2022, armed with:
- AIM-9X on the wingtips
- single AIM-120B’s on the low drag pylons
- twin AIM-120C’s on dual launchers on “normal” pylons (note cropped tailfins of the 120C compared to the 120B…)
- single fuel tank on centerline pylon
AIM-120’s are not cleared for wingtip mounting on any Hornet, worldwide, contrary to the F-16 where this can be done…
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Then the point I made above still stands, yes it is wrong to be missing, but not taking the “high/normal” pylon is only nerfing yourself as no pylons cause drag currently
Well, there’s also those who would want such things for historical authenticity. For the same reason I’d love to see Gaijin add the AIM-9P-5 to the Swiss Hornets.
Right now, not a single weapon modelled in-game for the Swiss F/A-18C Early was ever used by the Swiss Air Force, if we don’t consider other stores (fuel tanks, ATFLIR).
Frankly, the best way to implement the Swiss Hornets would have been to go with an early variant with 9P-5’s and 120B’s, maybe at 13.3, and then (maybe later only, when WT is ready for 9X), a late variant with 9X and 120C plus HMS at 14.3 or higher, depending on what they will do with the advanced missiles…
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Swiss Air Force did trials. There are no pictures of these trials. And I agree, of course, possibly never came into use. Like lot of other things GJ implemented on the Swiss Hornets ;-)